Month 2009-3 March
Meeting of 2009-3-5 Special Meeting
MINUTES
LAWTON CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
MARCH 5, 2009 - 6:00 P.M.
WAYNE GILLEY CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
Mayor John P. Purcell, Jr. Also Present:
Presiding Larry
Mitchell, City Manager
Frank
Jensen, City Attorney
Traci
Hushbeck, City Clerk
Mayor Purcell called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. Notice of meeting and agenda
were posted
on the City Hall notice board as required by law.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: James
Hanna, Ward Two
Janice
Drewry, Ward Three
Jay
Burk, Ward Four
Robert
Shanklin, Ward Five
Richard
Zarle, Ward Six
Stanley
Haywood, Ward Seven
Doug
Wells, Ward Eight
ABSENT: Bill
Shoemate, Ward One
BUSINESS ITEMS:
1. Consider receiving a briefing and approving the submittal
of the Engineering Study &
Report for the WWTP Improvements prepared by Black & Veatch Corporation to the ODEQ as
required by a Consent Order Agreement. Exhibits: Executive Summary from the Study and
Report. Presentation.
Jerry Ihler, Public Works Director, stated in 2007 the City of Lawton received a
notice of
violation from the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality (ODEQ) for exceeding some
of our discharge permit limits at the wastewater treatment plant. In January 2008, as a result
of
that notice of violation we negotiated a consent order with ODEQ which directed the City of
Lawton to hire an engineering consultant to come in and analyze and evaluate the process and
operation of the plant and the age and condition of the equipment. We had to have the
consultant on board by October 1, 2008 and they were given six months to complete the report
and we are to submit that report to ODEQ by April 1, 2009. In August 2008, the City of Lawton
entered into a contract with Black and Veatch to do this analysis and evaluation of the
wastewater treatment plant. He stated we broke the project into two phases. One was to address
the compliance issue and the ODEQ report. Since we were hiring the firm to look at the plant,
we also entered into an agreement with them to look at a phase II which was a long term
evaluation for the year 2030. Black and Veatch have completed their report and Mr. Joe Aillet
is
here to go over the report.
A presentation was made by Joe R. Aillet, P.E., Black & Veatch (attached).
Shanklin questioned if this problem was caused by the flooding.
Ihler stated it is because we were out of compliance with limits. The flooding
contributed to a
large part of the problem.
Mr. Aillet stated they do have a report that they will be issuing to ODEQ at the
end of the month.
They are optimistic that ODEQ will embrace the recommendations and the existing consent
order will be amended.
Haywood questioned how long the plant has been here.
Ihler stated 1978.
Haywood stated basically there will always be the potential to be out of compliance
and we will
always have a problem.
Zarle stated in 1995 or 1996 they put a massive amount of money into the plant.
Ihler stated back then it was a ten million gallon a day plant. At that time
they increased the
capacity from ten million gallons a day to eighteen million gallons a day. He stated he does not
believe they spent money on replacing equipment.
Shanklin stated it looks like we did not have the right type of people working out
there to know
when something went wrong.
Ihler stated they could look at doing a better job of training, but they don
t have enough staff to
make it work. They need to look at making improvements or replacing the equipment. When
a
piece of equipment fails in one area it creates all kinds of problems in other areas and we get out
of compliance.
Shanklin questioned if they just need bodies.
Ihler stated he needs people that are trained in the area of water and wastewater.
Hanna stated the presentation recommended $150,000 for manuals. He questioned
who was
going to teach the employees to read these manuals. Do they have trained employees right now?
Ihler stated they have people who can read these manuals. He stated right now
they do not have
adequate manuals on the procedures.
Hanna questioned why it would cost $75,000 for an SOP. Don t we write
up our own?
Ihler stated we have standard operating procedures that we follow and we need to
improve these
procedures. He stated we get good people, we train those people and then they leave. It
is
difficult to get these people to stay in Lawton. Part of it is our pay plan and part of it is
our baby
boomers retiring. The area of water and wastewater has become a very skilled and highly
expertise area. He stated we are on our fifth superintendent in five years. They have capable
people, there just aren t enough of them.
Mitchell stated that Fort Sill is also recruiting these people. We are competing
with Denver,
Dallas, Houston and Oklahoma City.
Mitchell stated we cannot ignore this and do nothing.
Ihler stated if we do nothing, ODEQ will come back and force us to do this. He
would much
rather negotiate with ODEQ and do this on our terms, much like the sewer rehab program. He
stated the problem we have is that we do not have the funding to move forward with the
engineering. It is not in the budget or in any of the CIP s. They have looked at the
2005 CIP
where there is some funding for the sewer rehab program. By doing this in house, they saved the
community $3 million. The feel they will save some additional funds in phase II and the bond
counsel agrees that this infrastructure improvement is something that could be utilized with those
funds. He would like to come back on the March 24
th Council meeting to amend the contract
with Black and Veatch to move into the design phase. They would like to fast track this
project
and submit to ODEQ and OWRB to get some funds from the potential stimulus package. He
stated they broke the project up into two phases, concrete and structures and equipment
replacement. They should put together package one for about $4.4 million and submit that to
ODEQ. With the stimulus package they want them shovel ready in 90-100 days, so they need to
move forward with that process if we have any chance of getting some of that money. He stated
they will also be submitting some sewer rehab projects and if they get some money for these
projects that will free up some money for this project. This will be paid from 2005 CIP sewer
rehab funds.
Shanklin questioned if the $10 million was the construction part.
Ihler stated yes, the $10.5 million is all construction to get it into compliance.
Haywood questioned if the stimulus money was a loan or a grant.
Ihler stated he is hearing that it would be 20/80. If they gave us $10 million,
up to 20%, or $2
million would be grant free and the other 80% or $8 million would come in the form of a loan.
Wells stated some of the stimulus money is completely free.
Ihler stated on the water and wastewater side, the federal government is funneling
it through the
states and they will forgive 20%, or a maximum of $2 million. This has not been finalized yet.
Mayor Purcell stated he and the City Manager have had conversations with state and
federal
legislators because what is happening is the federal government is giving money to the state to
use as a grant and for some reason the state has the idea to use this as a loan. That was not
the
intent of the stimulus package.
Ihler personally thanked Rusty Whisenhunt who has left to become the Utilities Director
at Fort
Hood in Killeen, Texas. He stated Rusty has saved this community millions of dollars through
his management of the sewer rehab program. We have utilized him as construction manager for
wastewater treatment plant construction and the water treatment plant construction which would
have been $500,000 - $700,000 contracts over a three year period with each job.
Shanklin stated the City of Lawton was nationally recognized for a program that Rusty
monitored.
Wells stated that one of the things that Rusty took into consideration was the potential
change in
the retirement plan for city employees. Not only is salary important, but also the other benefits
can cause someone with skills to leave the City.
Mitchell stated on that note, we are challenged with recruitment and many people
look at
employment with us from the state of Texas, but Texas has a very progressive retirement
program and it is very hard to get people to move here.
Burk stated we have got to stop talking about 1983 and talk about 2009. We
need to talk about
what is relevant today or we will always be sitting here with the same arguments. Since he has
been on this Council he has heard more about what happened forty years ago. He is worried
about the future.
MOVED by Drewry, SECOND by Haywood, to approve the submittal of the engineering study
and report for the WWTP improvements prepared by Black & Veatch to the ODEQ as required
by a consent order agreement. AYE: Hanna, Drewry, Burk, Shanklin, Zarle, Haywood,
Wells.
NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
Ihler stated that hopefully he will bring back an amendment to Black and Veatch
s contract at
the March 24
th City Council meeting.
Zarle questioned if the ventilation fans have been repaired.
Mr. Aillet stated some of them have been repaired and brought back into service,
but not all of
them.
Zarle questioned if they should all be in service. This is a safety hazard.
Mr. Aillet stated there are fifteen buildings that they would like to redo the HVAC.
Zarle questioned if this needs to be done right now since it is a safety issue. This
is a liability.
Ihler stated safety is a number one priority. He stated there are monitors
and they check these
monitors before they go into the building.
There being no further business to consider, the meeting adjourned at 6:58 a.m. upon
motion,
second and roll call vote.
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/s/ John P. Purcell, Jr.____________________
JOHN
P. PURCELL, JR., MAYOR
ATTEST:
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/s/ Traci Hushbeck____________________
TRACI HUSHBECK, CITY CLERK