Month 2007-1 January
Meeting of 2007-1-23 Regular Meeting
LAWTON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
23, 2007 6:00 P.M.
WAYNE GILLEY CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
Mayor John Purcell, Jr. Also Present:
Mitchell, City Manager
Vincent, City Attorney
Hushbeck, City Clerk
COL Sonny Uberti, Fort Sill Liaison
Mayor Purcell called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. Notice of meeting and agenda
on the City Hall notice board as required by law. Invocation was given by Pastor David Menge,
Western Hills Christian Church, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Shoemate, Ward One
Rex Givens, Ward Two
Janice Drewry, Ward Three
Robert Shanklin, Ward Five
Patton, Ward Six
Haywood, Ward Seven
Warren, Ward Eight
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION: None.
CONSENT AGENDA: The following items are considered to be routine by the City Council
will be enacted with one motion. Should discussion be desired on an item, that item will be
removed from the Consent Agenda prior to action and considered separately.
Mayor Purcell requested item #1 be considered separately.
MOVED by Warren, SECOND by Patton, to approve the Consent Agenda with the exception of
item #1. AYE: Patton, Haywood, Warren, Shoemate, Givens, Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin.
NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
1. Consider the following damage claims recommended for denial,
Thomas & Delia Adams in
the amount of $150.00, Glenn & Maria Girone in the amount of $2,900.00, Southwestern Bell
Telephone in the amount of $537.87, USAA Insurance in the amount of $14,623.61, David
Pierce in the amount of $6,000.00 and Brunhilde Smith-Jackson in the amount of $587.00.
Exhibits: Legal Opinions/Recommendations.
Mayor Purcell stated the City Attorney has requested that the claim of Glenn and
be tabled so that he may look further into this claim.
MOVED by Patton, SECOND by Givens, to table the claim of Glenn and Maria Girone. AYE:
Haywood, Warren, Shoemate, Givens, Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Patton. NAY: None.
Jackson stated he would like to discuss the claim of Thomas and Delia Adams. The
policy has been in place for a while and the Council has continuously helped residents when city
workers have damaged sprinkler systems. We have paid the claims almost continuously. He
stated the claim is only for $150 and he feels we should pay this claim.
Vincent stated there is a new policy and two new ordinances on this matter that will
be going to
the City Planning Commission on Thursday of this week. This issue will come to the City
Council on February 13
MOVED by Jackson, SECOND by Drewry, to pay the claim of Thomas & Delia Adams in the
amount of $150. AYE: Warren, Shoemate, Givens, Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Haywood. NAY:
Patton. MOTION CARRIED.
MOVED by Givens, SECOND by Jackson, to deny the remainder of the damage claims. AYE:
Shoemate, Givens, Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren. NAY: None.
2. Consider adopting a resolution ratifying the action of
the City Attorney and the City
Manager in filing and making payment of the judgment in the Workers' Compensation case of
James Hitchcock in the Workers' Compensation Court, Case No. 2005-09761 R. Exhibits:
Resolution No. 2007-03.
3. Consider adopting a resolution approving the settlement
by a joint petition and making
payment in the pending workers compensation claim of Craig Lyman, and filing a foreign
judgment in the District Court of Comanche County for purposes of placing said judgment on the
tax rolls. Exhibits:
Resolution No. 2007-04.
4. Consider approving contracts for School of the Arts
, Spring 2007 semester for Steven
Scott Smith ($ 630), Sherri Denning ($ 630), Natalie Sklaney ($ 315), and Sandra Dunn ($ 270)
faculty members for the project. Total amount for spring semester stipends is $ 1,845.00.
Exhibits: Contracts on file in City Clerk s office
5. Consider issuing a revocable permit for eight (8) monitoring
wells to Clearwater
Environmental Services, Inc. on certain street rights-of-ways of the NW Cache Road, NW Laird
Avenue, and NW 16
th Street and on utility easements in Fields and Dunning and Liberty Heights
Additions near 776 NW 16th Street. Exhibits: Application and location map. Revocable
on file in City Clerk s office.
6. Consider approving a Resolution authorizing the City Manager
to temporarily suspend
certain Resolutions, Ordinances and Code Provisions of the City of Lawton for the purpose of
providing local resources and incentives for the making of motion pictures and television
in the City of Lawton in an effort to help enhance the image and public relations of
the Lawton-Fort Sill community. Exhibits: Resolution 07-05.
7. Consider acknowledging completion of the Oklahoma Department
(ODOT) reconstruction project for the NE Flowermound Road (Gore to Cache) Project #2004-17
as constructed by Duit Construction, Inc. Exhibits: None.
8. Consider acknowledging completion of the Oklahoma Department
(ODOT) reconstruction project for the NW 38
th Street Reconstruction Project #2000-16 as
constructed by Bruton Construction Co., Inc. Exhibits: None.
9. Consider approving plans and specifications for the West
Cache Road 24 Waterline Phase
II Project #2005-8 and authorizing staff to advertise for bids. Exhibits: None.
10. Consider accepting the documents listed below which are
needed for the Water
Infrastructure Improvement Phase I (Lines) Project #2006-8 and the Water Infrastructure
Improvement Phase 2 (Tower) Project #2006-9, authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to execute
the documents and authorizing payments for same. Exhibits: Documents are on file in the City
11. Consider awarding (CL07-022) Sodium Hydroxide to Brenntag
Southwest of Sand Springs,
OK. Exhibits: Department recommendation, abstract of bids.
12. Consider extending the contract (CL06-017) Electro Fusion
Polyethylene Fittings for DR17
Pipe with Secor of Houston, TX. Exhibits: Department Recommendation, Price Bid Sheet,
Contract Extension Form.
13. Consider approving appointments to boards and commissions. Exhibits: None.
14. Consider approval of payroll for the periods of January
Shanklin stated he had wanted to pull #7 off of the consent agenda.
Jackson stated he agreed. It was brought to his attention that there was some
concern over this
MOVED by Shanklin, SECOND by Jackson, to reconsider item #7 of the consent agenda. AYE:
Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Shoemate, Givens. NAY: None.
7. Consider acknowledging completion of the Oklahoma Department
(ODOT) reconstruction project for the NE Flowermound Road (Gore to Cache) Project #2004-17
as constructed by Duit Construction, Inc. Exhibits: None.
Shanklin stated that Mr. Duit sent a letter stating that he was proud of his job
here working with
the city. He talked with Duit Construction in either Mustang or Yukon and they were upset with
the fact that the big mound of dirt out there was not in their contract. He stated Duit left it in a
mess. The contract was 80% paid by the state and 20% paid by the City of Lawton. He
questioned if there was anything we could do about this mess that they left on that property.
Vincent stated Allen construction is right back on the same site. They are
using the same work
area and he does not know if we can tell who did what.
Nick Richards, distributed pictures that show machinery with the Duit Construction
stated that the Richards Family Group is the owner of an 80 acre tract and he is the manager of
the LLC. Duit Construction approached him and stated they needed a place to set their batch
plant, stage their equipment and waste 17,000 cubic yards of excess dirt. He agreed that if the
excess dirt was placed 1500 east of Flowermound, he would lease the corner for the duration of
the contract. Duit Construction started putting the dirt in the specified location and the City
Lawton stopped them. A week later they started building this mound of dirt just 100 feet east
Flowermound. He was told that the City of Lawton is requiring Duit to get a dumping permit.
He stated their contract stated where the dirt must be placed. He stated they
just kept placing the dirt in the wrong location and now the City Council is going to give them a
clean bill of health when actually, they really don t. They still have a mound on their
with oil and gas all over the site that is washing into the drainage basin.
Givens questioned if he had a written contract.
Mr. Richards stated yes.
Givens questioned if Mr. Richards was compensated for this agreement.
Mr. Richards stated the compensation was for the 17,000 cubic yards to go 1,500 feet
east in the
low area and a dollar amount which was approximately $1,000 a month.
Givens clarified that he did have a private contract with Duit Construction.
Mr. Richards stated yes. He stated everything would have gone fine, but the
City of Lawton
stopped Duit from placing the dirt where the contract called for and allowed them to build a
mountain 100 feet east of Flowermound.
Patton questioned why it would have mattered.
Jerry Ihler, Public Works Director, stated this is an Oklahoma Department of Transportation
(ODOT) administered and 80% funded project. He cannot speak for ODOT, but he believes
their position would be similar to ours when we have projects. It is up to the contractor if he
wants to utilize someone s private property that is not on city right of way as a staging area
a construction site and we tell them that it is between them and the property owner. The city
not involved. He if fairly competent that ODOT s position is the same on the project they
on Flowermound. This was an agreement with the property owner and Duit Construction off the
right of way and off the project site.
Patton questioned if Mr. Ihler was aware if the City of Lawton told Mr. Duit not
to dump the dirt
1500 yards east.
Ihler stated that is not done in his department.
Jackson stated someone stopped Duit from dumping over there.
Mitchell stated Duit was required to secure an earth change permit from the City. He stated we
were having problems with dump sites around town and the City Council changed the ordinance
and the process for securing those permits. He does not know anything about where the material
was located or who asked them to relocate it.
Patton questioned why it would make a difference if he was dumping 1,000 feet more
to the east.
Vincent stated the reason they needed a permit 1,000 feet east is because it was
off into a swail
of a drainage area and they had to get a permit to show that they were not going to cause
sedimentation and they were following the proper environmental procedures to fill up a low area.
He does not know if we actually issued the permit. The condition of the contract between
and Mr. Richards is a private issue. If he couldn t dump the dirt in the low area, Duit
have made arrangements with Mr. Richards for someplace else.
Jackson questioned if anyone knew if Duit applied for the permit.
Mitchell stated they did apply, but he does not know if it was issued or not.
Mr. Richards stated Duit tried to get the dump site permit, but they never could
enough. He finally hired Landmark Engineering to obtain the dumping permit, but it was at the
very end of Duit s contract.
Jackson stated it sounds like the permit has been issued and the City Council is
being asked to
give Duit a clean bill of health. He does not know what to do about this issue.
Shanklin questioned if we had any hold on anyone coming to town and leaving a mess
Vincent stated no, he is not saying this, but the contract to hire Mr. Duit is a
state contract. We
only furnished 20% of the money and Mr. Duit did not have to answer to the City of Lawton.
His contract for the dirt and the site location is between Duit Construction and Richards Family
Group, LLC, and we are not a party to that contract. If we caused a problem by not being able
obtain a permit, then it is still a contract between Duit and Richards Family Group.
Shanklin stated Mr. Richards only recourse is in District Court.
Vincent stated yes. He stated he did not know if Mr. Richards had contacted
Mr. Richards stated he cannot understand how the City Council can give them a clean
health tonight if you look at the picture and see all of the oil they allowed on that site and
allowed to wash into the stormwater drainage basin. He stated he didn t think it was
thing for him to take legal action and delay the progress on that road to get the dirt in the right
place. If he has to, he will move the dirt into the right place.
Shanklin stated the EPA would not let us do this. He went out there five or
six times and he does
not see how we can ignore it.
Jackson questioned what can be done.
Vincent stated as far as breech of contract between the Duit Company and Mr. Richards,
that is a
Shanklin questioned if we would bring in the EPA to look at it.
Vincent stated he is not an expert on environmental law and he would have to look
that up before
he could give an opinion.
Drewry stated this is another situation like we had when they tore up the street
County Hospital. She questioned if this was something we should look at before someone comes
in to do something. Should they have to agree that this is cleaned up and make sure they don
create a mess.
Vincent stated that would depend on the contract.
Shoemate questioned if the contract with Mr. Richards reads that the property would
to its normal state.
Vincent stated that is a civil matter.
Mayor Purcell stated all they are doing is acknowledging completion. He
suggested the City
Council either acknowledge the completion of the project or table this issue and someone call
ODOT and ask them if there is anything that can be done.
Patton stated we only contracted with them to build the road. It is not that
we are saying that
Duit is a great company, it is just that we are bound to our own contract and they have built the
road. He stated we may open ourselves up to some legal trouble if we don t meet our end
He hates that they breeched the contract with Mr. Richards.
Jackson stated that now this has been discussed on the City Council floor, maybe
Construction will get with Mr. Richards and try to resolve this problem.
Mitchell suggested they accept the contract and direct staff to contact ODOT on behalf
owner and see if we can help assist them in pursuing this issue. We don t have any legal
standing, but we can assist in finding the right people to talk with. He does not know if
has accepted this project.
Patton stated it would be better coming from ODOT.
Ihler stated when this is brought to the City Council to acknowledge completion,
of the street work is completed and the punch list items that ODOT puts together after their final
inspection are completed. Because this is a CIP project, we have always brought back to the City
Council after the completion of CIP projects. From the city s standpoint and the action
city has to take, we are saying that the project is complete. We are not saying that we accept
project, we are acknowledging that it is complete, because it is an ODOT project. He stated he
would be more than happy to call ODOT and ask them what they can do to help Mr. Richards
with regards to his matter with Duit Construction. Other than that, he does not believe there
thing the City of Lawton can do.
Shanklin stated he would like to have staff ask the ODEQ about this issue. He
does not believe
that Duit can walk off and do this.
MOVED by Jackson, SECOND by Drewry, to acknowledge completion of the Oklahoma
Department of Transportation (ODOT) reconstruction project for the NE Flowermound Road
(Gore to Cache) Project #2004-17 as constructed by Duit Construction, Inc. and direct the Public
Works Director to contact ODOT to see what can be done to help out Mr. Richards. AYE:
Jackson, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Shoemate, Givens, Drewry. NAY: None.
OLD BUSINESS ITEMS:
15. Discuss criteria for providing water to residents inside
the city limits.
Vincent stated he and Councilmember Shanklin spoke earlier in the week and staff
finished the research on this issue and request this item be tabled to the February 13
MOVED by Shanklin, SECOND by Jackson, to table until February 13, 2007. AYE: Givens,
Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Haywood, Warren, Shoemate. NAY: None. ABSENT: Patton
NEW BUSINESS ITEMS:
16. Discuss options for a future sales tax election to fund
infrastructure projects needed to
support anticipated population growth as a result of recent BRAC announcements made by the
Department of Defense and Fort Sill and provide direction to staff.
Exhibits: Draft Ordinance
#2 and Draft Ordinance #3.
Vincent stated he was directed to prepare two types of ordinances. One based
Councilmember Warren s suggestions and one based on Councilmember Jackson s suggestions.
He distributed a corrected copy of Warren s proposal. He stated these proposals were
of a meeting that took place in the City Attorney s office and it was decided to place both
proposals on the agenda. He stated basically the only differences are in Sections 1402, 1404 and
1409. Other than that, the ordinances are identical.
Patton questioned on the 2005 CIP, how much money was set aside for streets.
Mitchell stated there was money set aside for general street improvements and there
were two or
three specific projects.
Ihler stated there was $4 million set aside for street improvements throughout the
They are trying to do the majority in-house so they can make the dollars stretch. He stated
had three major arterial projects which were 67
th Street from Cache Road to Rogers Lane,
Southeast 45th Street from Lee Boulevard to Gore Boulevard and 38th Street from
Cache Road to
Givens read a letter from the Mayor s Task Force on Zone One expressing their
support for any
tax plan that would in principle support the hiring of additional police and fire personnel.
Jackson stated while he has had discussion with citizens around town and received
from some of the County Commissioners and meeting with the chairman of the Mayor s task
force, the proposal that he has proposed is clean and simple. But most important, it includes
new taxes and gets us to a position that will make a dent in the city s infrastructure problem.
His proposal includes, as of July 1, 2007, for seven years will bring us about $17,500,000
addition, we pick up an 1/8 cent on January 1, 2009 that will bring us approximately $6, 875,000
for a total of $24,375,000 for this seven year span. He stated he purposely left a 1/8 cent off
table because of some concerns by the County Commissioners and the Mayor s Task Force
because there may be some needs by the county for some additional money. He stated it seems
as though the committee has suggested not using sales tax money for operational expenses and
that is what they tried to emphasize to the county officials. Once operational is used by sales
it is gone and lost forever. With working from $24,375,000 and addressing some of the dire
needs in this community, like trying to upgrade the existing streets and some of the poorer
neighborhoods. This will give us a lot of money to work in all eight wards. He stated the
Works Director has put together a project list and this $10,968,750 would address a lot of
problems we have with interior streets in our community. With arterial street reconstruction of
$8,531,250, this money would basically be to match the monies that we have identified in the
2005 CIP programs with some of the streets like 45
th Street or 38th Street. He stated there is
almost $4 million allocated to upgrade our water and sewer lines. He stated there would be $1.2
million for homeland security, mainly the consolidation of our E-911 system. He stated they do
need more police officers on the street and we can get more without raising taxes. Currently
there is $6 per month charge on the utility bill. If we withdraw $1 off of that rolling stock
that would bring us $400,000 annually for hiring of additional officers. The City Manager has
indicated he would do his best within this next budget year to hire at least an additional three or
four new officers. He stated the additional $400,000 could be used the way the City Manager
and Police Chief see fit. They may want to double the officers up in a police car and avoid us
paying $30,000 for new vehicles. If they doubled up, we could put more officers out on the
street. He believes this proposal would get us possibly ten to twelve police officers on the street
as well as one, two or three new firefighters. He stated to him, this is clean and simple and
wants to emphasize to the public that there are no new taxes involved.
Givens stated he agrees with the addition of the police officers and he would like
the need for more firefighters. He stated in 1981 the fire department had 1,875 emergency
responses and they only had 123 budgeted positions. In budget year 2006-2007, they had 7,561
emergency responses. That is 111% increase and they currently only have 128 budgeted
positions. They have only gone up 5 positions in 25 years. He stated there is one unit that
not have supervisors. He stated the Fire Marshall s office does not have the staff to keep
with reviewing of plans. He stated he needs to be assured that not only the police will be taken
care of but also the fire department.
Jackson stated tonight they are here to pass the ordinance for a sales tax extension
and at a later
date it will be the responsibility of the City Council, through recommendation by the City
Manager, as to who will be hired and how many. He has provided a method of funding without
additional taxes. It should be determined by the City Manager, Fire Chief and Police Chief as
how many people they can hire with this amount of money.
Drewry stated she feels they need an additional gang task force. The current
six member task
force cannot cover the city.
Shoemate questioned if they reduced the amount of money for existing street reconstruction
45% to 40%, would that take care of the additional police and fire personnel.
Jackson stated he really wants to stay away from using sales tax money for operational
Givens stated we currently spend sales tax money for operational expenses.
Jackson stated we are asking to extend the sales tax for seven years and we would
have to come
back and ask the public to extend it again in order to continue to fund those positions. He stated
he would have no problem adjusting that percentage from 45% to 40%. That would bring an
additional $1.2 million. He stated this proposal is clean and simple with no new taxes. He is
definitly against any new taxes.
Drewry stated that Councilmember Shanklin stated at the last meeting that people
didn t have a
problem with a tax increase.
Mayor Purcell stated that according to Councilmember Jackson s proposal, there
are new taxes
in that there is a ¼ cent sales tax for seven years that takes the place of the county tax for
Goodyear . That is a wash in terms of total taxes, but he is also proposing a 1/8 cent sales tax
the city. That is an increase.
Jackson stated that would not take effect until January 1, 2009.
Mayor Purcell stated that is still an increase because Comanche County is obviously
going to go
out and ask for that ¼ cent.
Jackson stated that is not obvious. They are discussing that right now.
Mayor Purcell stated from just the City s perspective, that is an increase
of an 1/8 of a cent.
Givens stated that would not be an increase to the people, but to the City.
Jackson stated that he answers to the voters and that is not an increase to the taxpayers.
Mayor Purcell stated he is assuming the county doesn t propose any new taxes.
Patton stated then the county would be proposing the increase.
Jackson stated it is not an increase of taxes to the public. It is an increase
to the City of Lawton,
but not to the public.
Mayor Purcell stated assuming the county does not put that ¼ or 1/8 back on.
Jackson stated yes.
Shanklin stated we pay the City Manager well over $100,000 and questioned if he was
performing his duties because Councilmembers Jackson and Warren know more about this tax
deal than the City Manager. He is flabbergasted over the fact that Lawton, Oklahoma has 161
police officers and Norman has 163. We have 60 square miles and Norman has 193 square
miles. His point is that we are in that ballpark and we are not the only ones who have gangs.
The data comes from who is selling it. He is confused as to the funding because where
think the money comes from to balance the budget. Our revenues are generated from the sale of
water, sewer, solid waste and taxes. He is not going to support it and he is worried that we are
ignoring the county and we are going to get into a contest against each other. We have got to
down with the county officials and appease them to some end. He knew the proposed tax
increase on those residents outside the city limits was a farce and that it wouldn t fly. They
not going to pay us sales tax on those houses they are building out in the county. We are trying
to appease our building people with water levels and that tax. We are creating more enemies
then we can overcome. He feels that if we did hire two or three police officers, there could
some ingenuity used as far as getting them in cars, but we could put 500 more police out there
and we would still have gangs. The parents are at fault.
Warren stated Councilmember Jackson s version is the light version. He
looked at the list of
needs that was provided to the state officials. He does have a small hope that they will provide
us funding for some of those projects, but we have to try and help ourselves. He stated we can
say we are not going to raise taxes, but that limits us to what we can do. You can t attack the
problem, you can only put it on hold for a while. You decide you are going to raise taxes, but
you have to decide to what extent. In his mind, this would be the proactive way to go about
You take a bigger bit out of the problem. He believes the police and fire issue is important. He
sent out an email with both plans to several citizens and asked their opinion and what they would
be willing to pay for. He got back about 28 responses, and with the exception of one they were
in favor of his proposal with the tax increase. He read an email he received in support of his
proposal. He stated this was a good indication of all of the responses he received. The public
issues with public safety and he feels they need to address that issue. His proposal includes
twenty public safety officers and he is proposing to pay for these positions from the utility bill.
His original plan is for approximately $52.5 million. New infrastructure would be $15,600,000,
existing street maintenance is $8 million, upgrading existing waterlines is $8 million, homeland
security and public safety would be a capital account and would not be used for personnel, but it
would be used for capital equipment and other things. This also includes five years of rolling
stock at about $12 million. The $6 that is currently on the utility bill will be shifted over
tax. In its place there will be a public safety charge on the utility bill of $3.20 and it would
slowly decrease over the years until it is about .63 cents. Basically residents will save
a month on their utility bill with this plan, but the sales tax will be ½ cent for the first eighteen
months and ¾ cent for seventy-two months. This will be a high of 8 ½ which is a ¼
increase over the current tax rate. This does not include anything on the county side and there
are issues there that need to be discussed. The Mayor s task force had talked about ad valorem
on some of the county projects. He stated this proposal is an aggressive approach,
need to agree on an amount they are willing to raise and go from there.
Drewry questioned she feels that they have gotten away from the ideas brought by
the Mayor s
task force where everyone was involved including the county.
Mayor Purcell suggested they separate the issue into two parts. The first is
the tax that is being
proposed to raise the funds and second is how they will spend the funds. Councilmember Jackson
is proposing a ¼ cent sales tax for seven years and 1/8 cent for 5 ½ years which would start
January 1, 2009. He questioned Warren where his money will come from.
Warren stated he is proposing ½ cent from July 1, 2007 December
31, 2008. For the period
beginning January 1, 2009 through December 31, 2014 there would be a 72 month ¾ cent tax.
Mayor Purcell clarified that the sale tax raised would be raised by a ¼ cent
from the current rate
on July 1
st and you lose ½ cent and go back to ¾ cent which raising it another ¼ cent. In addition
it is proposed to take $6 off the rolling stock and add $2.80 with a decreasing scale each year to
pay for police and fire.
Warren stated maybe they need to decide how much they are willing to attach first. In all of his
proposals he never loses the police and fire, but he shifts the amount of remaining dollars that
can be used for the remaining projects. The lower the tax and the less time, the less the amount
of dollars they have for each project. He stated they need to decide how much money they want
to attach first, otherwise the project doesn t mean anything until they know how much money
they have to spend.
Jackson stated that he doesn t have to defend the City Manager, but he was
on the task force and
he was in his office two or three times a day and Mr. Mitchell knew where they were at on this
proposal. Mr. Mitchell did help develop both proposals. He stated his proposal was put together
with a combination of the meetings with the task force and what he felt was important for the
taxpayers inside the city limits of Lawton. He purposely left off an 1/8 cent to begin January
2009 with the county in mind as well as realizing that the county needs to address an ad valorem
tax issue for their items. Those are expenses that will last forever and he feels they need to
address those by an ad valorem issue. The City of Lawton and the task force need to stay with
the county and do what needs to be done to get theirs passed as well.
Drewry stated they all need to remember that we are part of the county.
Patton stated that was the point of the task force, to get everyone together. The
bottom line is
that when the county initially went after that tax to build the jail, it was built as we need
money right now to build this jail and they won t need the money to operate it. They
the revenue from housing inmates will pay for the operations. He stated that hasn t happened.
Mayor Purcell stated from what he has heard, it appears the county wants to go out
the ¼ cent sales tax that goes off on December 31, 2008, with a new ¼ cent sales tax that
begin on January 1, 2009. He questioned if anyone could confirm this.
Mitchell stated he attended the County Commission meeting and the ballot language
distributed to the commissioners was in fact a ¼ cent sales tax that expires in December 2008
and the proposal was to extend that ¼ cent sales tax for ten years to not only fund the jail, but
fund economic development, rural firefighters, the fairgrounds, county sheriff and the juvenile
detention center. He does not think that a ¼ cent sales tax can fund all of those operations. He
thinks there is a slight variation to that proposal that might include some ad valorem for a portion
of that project list.
John Hester, Lawton-Fort Sill Chamber of Commerce, stated he cannot say with all
is the way they will proceed. He has personally encouraged them not to proceed with that. He
does not think that the pieces of that are correct. He has encouraged the county to put off the
issue so that the City of Lawton and Comanche County can work together on a more
comprehensive solution. The juvenile detention center is a part of that package because the city
is going to put more police officers on the street and there will be more arrests.
Mitchell questioned the idea of economic development.
Hester stated it did not get the best hearing. Part of the efforts over the
next few days has to do
with what happens here tonight. He stated they got great news yesterday with the ability to use
ad valorem for economic development whereby state law allows you to set up a certain millage
which sets up bond capacity. You don t have to draw on it. Theoretically, if you didn
any economic development deals, you would never raise the property tax. Basically you set up
bond capacity to use as needed. They could take care of some immediate needs and it is a great
Haywood questioned how they can come together with the county. They need to
know what is at
Hester stated they have tried hard to work together and they have gotten off track
over the last
week and he believes there is still time to salvage a joint solution. He personally does not
believe that this has to go out April 3
Shanklin stated that the 1 ¾ sales tax we were going to put on them was not
a good deal.
Hester stated the county wants to fund rural fire departments and he does not think
the citizens of
Lawton are ready to fund rural fire departments. He was looking for a way to fund some of their
own issues and help themselves and increase their county funding by that method. It was
idea, it just didn t work. He feels there is a solution still on the table.
Shanklin stated he feels they don t have to do this tonight.
Mayor Purcell clarified the county will meet again on Thursday.
Hester stated there is a lot of common ground and he believes the county will not
attempt to do a
deal on Thursday morning.
Mayor Purcell stated we could have a joint meeting on Monday and have a discussion.
problem is that we cannot deal with the county commissioners as individuals because they cannot
have even two together or they violate the open meeting law.
Hester stated he feels the city cannot eat up all of the sales tax capacity. The
county is going to
have to have some of it. He would like to see this issue put off a month and spend some time.
Mayor Purcell questioned if it would be beneficial to have a joint meeting with the
commissioners next Monday night. Go betweens going back and forth is causing some of this
confusion. He questioned the City Council if they felt this would be a good idea.
Shoemate stated he feels it is a good idea, but he felt they need to include the
in this discussion.
Mayor Purcell stated they can come to the meeting, but the technology center already
thing done and will go to a vote in March and they have nothing to do with this.
Hester stated he cannot be here Monday night.
Jackson questioned what the drop dead date is for the April 3
Vincent stated they have to have the resolution to the election board by February
Jackson stated they need to make it clear to the county commission that we are going
to reach a
decision on Monday night.
Hester stated if we end up in an environment where we do raise the sales tax by agreement,
really need to get with some retailers in advance and play it out. There is a voter education
as well. He would like to see them put it off for a month.
Mayor Purcell questioned if Hester could be here on Tuesday night.
Hester stated yes.
Mayor Purcell questioned if the City Council could attend a special meeting on Tuesday,
th at 6:00 p.m.
Mayor Purcell stated he will call the Chairman of the county commission and invite
commissioners to the special meeting.
Givens stated for anyone who doesn t think we need additional police and fire,
they need to go
out and spend a week in the zone one area and see how those residents have to live on a nightly
Hester stated in regards to public safety, they really need to determine a number.
Shanklin stated he knows the chief could use fourteen, he could probably put twenty-five
to work, but other cities haven t done it and they have more money than we have. He hopes
City Manager is back on target and running this show. He is getting alarmed from some of our
input from people that may not have that expertise. He thinks the City Manager is capable.
Jackson stated he agrees, but this City Council, since 1982 has developed the CIP
project list and the funding method.
Shanklin stated if the police chief tells us that he has to have fourteen, then he
will go with you.
But just because someone has generated the number fourteen doesn t mean apples to him.
Drewry stated this wasn t just Councilmembers Jackson or Warren s plan,
this was the whole
Mayor Purcell confirmed that there will be a meeting next Tuesday, January 30
th at 6:00 p.m. and
he will call Commissioner Turner tomorrow and invite the County Commission.
Warren stated the reason he funded the police and fire the way he did was because
these officers and firefighters to be on the job as quickly as possible. There is no way that
will be able to hire 14 police officers in one hiring cycle. If the dollars are there and available,
they can hire them as quickly as possible. If they only hire three or four a year, it would be
or six years before they will all be out on the street. He stated there are issues with the jail
question and there are a lot of things that people are not happy about. He would hope, at City
Council direction, that they would sit down with the county and start discussing a city/county
solution to incarceration. He has heard from people on the street that the county is asking for
ten year extension on an operational tax on a building that won t be able to house all the
prisoners it needs to house in the next three years. There is a real issue they need to address
whole, not just the operational aspect. This is for the city jail as well.
17. Consider authorizing the City Attorney to prepare a Council
Policy relating to requests for
information from the office of the City Manager, Finance Director and City Clerk. Exhibits:
Council Policy 2-2.
Shanklin stated he thought we already had this on the books somewhere around 1995
that anything that came through the City Clerk s office was germane to the rest of the City
Mayor Purcell stated he remembers that they changed the policy to make sure that
opinions go out to every city council member. He thought everything goes out to everyone now
in either email or some other form. He questioned who was not getting something from the City
Manager, Finance Director or City Clerk?
Shanklin stated Councilmember Warren wanted the voting record of former Councilmember
Hanna. That is not privileged information. He wants to know what he wanted it for. He
they cannot put the City Clerk in the middle of it, which is not fair to her. He got this on the
street that he had asked for this information, the same way that he found out that Mr. Beller knew
everything that went on in executive session. He stated he would not have known anything about
it unless someone would have told him. He stated Warren s request is not germane to anything
Warren stated as a citizen of Lawton, he has the right to ask for the voting record
of any elected
official he wants to. He wanted to know Mr. Hanna s voting record because he was told that
a person to person conversation Mr. Hanna told someone that he was personally responsible for
Olive Garden coming to Lawton and he wanted to see exactly everything that he had voted yes or
no on because he wants to know what are lies and what aren t.
Shanklin stated if that isn t farfetched he had never heard of one.
Mayor Purcell questioned what he wanted to do on this item.
Shanklin stated he did this more so that if he wanted to know what someone has asked
for, he can
have it and if someone wants to know what they want it for, the City Clerk can give him a copy
and not be caught in the middle. If the City Clerk doesn t want to give it to me
Warren questioned why wouldn t she tell you
it is not a secret.
Shanklin stated he is trying to make it easy and if the City Council doesn
t want to do it that
Warren stated what Councilmember Shanklin is saying is that every time he goes to
Manager, Public Works or Parks and Recreation and he wants something, now everyone is going
to have to get a copy of it.
Shanklin stated no.
Warren questioned what was the difference?
Shanklin stated he is not going to tell him.
Warren stated he does not understand how he can say that he wants a copy of what
for, but only on stuff that certain people ask for.
Shanklin stated when he told the City Clerk that he knew about it, her face fell
this far. He
explained where he did find out about it because someone who asked for it had to go tell
someone and they told somebody else. Just like the incident over the deal in executive session,
he would never have known about the argument they had in there back in February. He stated
Councilmember Warren said something to Mr. Beller and Mr. Beller said something to his
brother-in-law and a friend.
Warren stated that is not what happened. Mr. Beller came to his office the
morning after it
happened and told him about it.
Mayor Purcell stated they do not need to get into personal conversations with people
town. He questioned what Councilmember Shanklin would like to do about this particular
Shanklin stated he would like to table this issue indefinitely.
MOVED by Shanklin, SECOND by Drewry, to table indefinitely. AYE: Patton, Haywood,
Warren, Shoemate, Givens, Drewry, Shanklin. NAY: None. ABSENT: Jackson. MOTION
REPORTS: MAYOR/CITY COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER
Shanklin stated he mentioned a time or two about the $10 million we are putting down
that is running to the red river and then on to Waurika. Texas wants this water and that is our
water to begin with. We need to figure out some way to get the water to Waurika or put a pump
out there and pump it back into Ellsworth. That is 10 million gallons and that equates to
a ton of
water we are losing. If we had that going to Ellsworth the last two or three years, it probably
wouldn t be down any. We need to look at it and how we can protect that water and be sure
it is ours.
Vincent stated it is ours, but ODEQ will not issue a permit unless we get the state
Mitchell stated they are trying to get the state law changed that will permit us
to use that water.
Drewry stated she has received some calls from boathouse owners on Lake Lawtonka
boathouses are on dry land and they received a bill to pay their fees. She thought that we weren
t charging them right now.
Mitchell stated they need to apply to get that fee waived.
Givens stated there is a centennial exhibit at the museum. It is a quilt collection
throughout the state. He reminded citizens that the museum is free to Lawton citizens on Sunday
Mayor Purcell stated the Martin Luther King, Jr. celebration is this Friday at 6:00
McMahon Auditorium. There is also an art exhibit from the Comanche Nation at McMahon
Auditorium at 2:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. on Friday or Saturday.
Vincent stated the statewide water conference is February 16
th in Oklahoma City. He will be a
presenter. He asked the Council to contact the City Managers office if they want to attend.
Mitchell stated this would be a good opportunity to talk to ODEQ people about using
out of the wastewater treatment plant. We need a permit to be able to do this and it would
require state law. He distributed a notice regarding a budget workshop sponsored by Governing
Magazine to be held on February 7
th in Oklahoma City. He stated eight department directors
signed up to attend. He stated if any Councilmember is interested in attending, let him know.
The Mayor and Council convened in executive session at 7:47 p.m. and reconvened in
open session at 8:55 p.m. Roll call reflected all members present.
BUSINESS ITEMS: EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS
18. Pursuant to Section 307B.2&4, Title 25, Oklahoma
Statutes, consider convening in
executive session to discuss negotiations concerning employees and representatives of employee
groups and the proceedings in
American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees
Union vs. City of Lawton, Oklahoma, PERB No. M1400, and if necessary, take appropriate
action in open session. Exhibits: None.
Vincent read the title of item 18. The City Council did receive a briefing
on the current status of
the PERB case and the current status of negotiations. No action is required.
19. Pursuant to Section 307B.4, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss the pending petition in the Supreme Court of the United States case of Mark
Roy Collins, and if necessary, take appropriate action in open session. Exhibits:
Vincent read the title of item 19. The City Council did receive a briefing
on this case and we do
need an assistance of an attorney that is licensed in the United Stated Supreme Court to help with
MOVED by Drewry, SECOND by Warren, to approve the amendment to the retainer agreement
for professional and legal services with John P. Zelbst Law Firm regarding the pending petition
in the Supreme Court of the United States case of Mark Roy Collins. AYE: Givens, Drewry,
Jackson, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Shoemate. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
20. Pursuant to Section 307B.1, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss the continued employment of Michael Corrales as Municipal Judge, and in
open session, consider approving an Employment Agreement with Michael Corrales as
Municipal Judge and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute the Agreement. Exhibits:
Employment Agreement Summary. Proposed Employment Agreement On file in City Clerk
Mayor Purcell read the title of item 20.
MOVED by Haywood, SECOND by Warren, to continue the employment agreement with
Michael Corrales as Municipal Judge at a salary of $91,000 a year beginning February 1, 2007
and ending January 31, 2009. AYE: Drewry, Jackson, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren,
Shoemate, Givens. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
21. Pursuant to Section 307B.1, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss the evaluation review of John H. Vincent, Jr., City Attorney, and if necessary,
take appropriate action in open session. Exhibits: None.
Mayor Purcell read the title of item 21. He stated the City Attorney
was evaluated and it was
determined by the City Council that he is performing in an outstanding manner in all areas.
There being no further business to consider, the meeting adjourned at 8:58 p.m. upon
second and roll call vote.
P. PURCELL, JR., MAYOR
TRACI HUSHBECK, CITY CLERK