Month 2004-3 March
Meeting of 2004-3-23 REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
LAWTON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 23, 2004
WAYNE GILLEY CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
Mayor Cecil E. Powell, Also
Present:
Presiding Larry
Mitchell, City Manager
John
Vincent, City Attorney
Kathy
Fanning, City Clerk
Col.
Gregory K. Herring, Fort Sill Liaison
The meeting was called to order at 6:11 p.m. by Mayor Powell. Notice of meeting
and agenda
were posted on the City Hall notice board as required by law.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Randy
Bass, Ward One
James
Hanna, Ward Two
Glenn
Devine, Ward Three
Amy
Ewing-Holmstrom, Ward Four
Robert Shanklin, Ward Five
Jeffrey Patton, Ward Six
Stanley Haywood, Ward Seven
Randy Warren, Ward Eight
ABSENT: None
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION:
Corrie Steel, 647 Arbuckle, said she has been a resident, in that house, for 40 years and she is
here to let Council know that she has appreciated the few things you have done for Ranch Oaks,
but at this time she is very unhappy with the way the water lines are. She said currently their
street looks bad, with red mud, when dry, it's red dust. When the bus comes down there it stirs
up all this dust and they are living with that. She said living in a City that is a free City,
it is
wrong, very wrong for them to have to endure what they are. Every time they look up, the lines
are broken. They wake up, there's no water, and they come out and dig and leave all that mess
in
the street. She said they never come back to sweep it up and on their street right now, there
are
three places that are particularly ugly. They don't like it because they are residents of the Ranch
Oaks area and she is asking Council to please look into it and do something for them. If you
were to go there right now, they repaired that last Wednesday and as we speak, the water is still
running. Something needs to be done. She said she doesn't know what more they could do. They
are taxpayers, concerned citizens and they have everything all the other neighborhoods have.
They probably don't have as much money, but they have a heart and are God's children and they
are asking Council to please look into this matter. It's at Ranch Oak and Arbuckle Streets. It's
terrible, and if you care about us, please drive through there and please do something about those
streets.
Haywood said it has been turned in and she's right, every other week there's water line
breaks and
I have turned in some with Community Development Block Grant, to fix those streets from
Ranch Oak all the way down to Chisholm Trail and also from Arbuckle up to 6
th Street. He also
asked for the street to be swept last week. He asked Steel if the street had been swept yet.
Steel said no and she had called also and they keep telling her the City can't afford
it.
Powell said Mitchell is taking a lot of notes and he's sure that will be addressed in
the very near
future.
ADUDIANCE PARTICIPATION CLOSED
CONSENT AGENDA : Separate consideration was requested for Items #1 and 4.
MOTION by Bass, SECOND by Patton, to approve the Consent Agenda items as recommended
with the exception of Items 1 and 2. AYE: Hanna, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton,
Haywood, Warren, Bass. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED
1. Consider the following damage claims recommended for denial: Southwestern Bell
Telephone Company. Exhibits: Legal Opinions/Recommendations.
Vincent asked this claim be tabled indefinitely and the other two Southwestern Bell
claims be
denied. He said he had discussions with the Claims Representative for Southwestern Bell and
they are in concurrence.
MOTION Warren, SECOND by Hanna, to table item # 1 indefinitely and deny the other two
claims from Southwestern Bell. AYE: Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Warren, Bass,
Hanna. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
*Haywood was not in the room during the vote.
2. Consider ratifying the actions of the City Engineer and approving
Change Order No. 3 for
the Fire Station #5 Relocation Project #2000-17 with Wicker Construction Co., Inc. Action:
approved.
3. Authorize release of RFP for Project Impact "Public Building
Retrofit-Fire Station Storm
Shelters for First Responders." This component of the Project Impact Program is subject to
approval by the Federal Emergency Management Agency of the United States Department of
Homeland Security. Action: approved.
4. Consider allowing the City of Lawton Parks & Recreation
Department to co-sponsor with
the Lawton Chamber of Commerce, Lawton/Ft. Sill Umpire Association, American Cancer
Society, and American Legion Organization a series of softball tournaments for the 2004
baseball/softball season.
Warren said Leadership Lawton would like to be included in the fee waiver, as indicated
in
information he passed out to Council.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Hanna, to approve allowing the City of Lawton Parks &
Recreation Department to co-sponsor with the Lawton Chamber of Commerce, Lawton/Ft. Sill
Umpire Association, American Cancer Society, and American Legion Organization a series of
softball tournaments for the 2004 baseball/softball season and to waive those fees with the
addition of Leadership Lawton. AYE: Shanklin, Patton, Warren, Bass, Hanna. NAY: Ewing-Holmstrom. MOTION CARRIED.
*Haywood was not in the room during the vote.
*Devine arrived at 6:20 p.m.
5. Consider accepting the Department of Health and Human Services
Grant to establish a
community based citizen volunteer Medical Reserve Corps. Action: approved.
6. Consider approving an agreement to accept an Emergency Management
Performance Grant
(EMPG). Action: approved.
7. Consider setting the date of April 27, 2004, to hold a public
hearing and consider an
ordinance closing the public utility easement located in a closed portion of "C" Avenue between
Sheridan Road and SW 21
st Street in Radio City Addition. Action: approved.
8. Consider adopting a street light resolution to authorize the
installation of street lights at SW
6
th Street and Bishop and in Elmer Thomas Park at the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial and at 52nd
and NW Wilfred Drive. Action: approved.
9. Consider acknowledging receipt of a permit from the Oklahoma
State Department of
Environmental Quality for the construction of 272 linear feet of eight (8) inch PVC sanitary
sewer line and 487 linear feet of eight (8) inch PVC potable water line and all appurtenances to
serve the Warwick Development, City of Lawton, Comanche County, Oklahoma. Action:
approved.
10. Consider holding a public hearing on April 13, 2004 to consider
a change to the FFY 2000
Consolidated One-Year Action Plan; Change 2 (Draft), receive input from citizens; provide input
for the final plan change. Action: approved.
11. Consider approving the following contract extensions: Library
Book Contract (CL03-047)
with The Gale Group, H.W. Wilson Company, Publishers Quality Library Service, Regent Book,
Recorded Books, LLC, Davidson Titles, Inc. and Scholastic Library Publishing - Library.
Action: approved.
12. Consider awarding contract for Playground Equipment (CL04-046). Action: approved.
13. Consider awarding contract for Manhole Rings and Covers (CL04-049). Action: approved.
14. Consider approval of minutes of Special CIP Workshop
Meeting of February 17, 2004.
Action: approved.
15. Consider approval of payroll for the period of March 1, 2004
to March 14, 2004. Action:
approved.
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OLD BUSINESS ITEMS:
16. Receive a briefing on the All Hazard Mitigation Plan from
Carter-Burgess, Inc., and
consider adopting a resolution approving the plan.
Bigham said this item is to receive a briefing on the All Hazard Mitigation Plan. This
was
distributed at the last Council meeting. He said the City did an amendment to their contract with
the Storm Water Mitigation Plan to do this plan. This plan is one of the unfunded mandate
requirements of FEMA to have in place to receive Mitigation Aide from the Federal Government
in certain conditions. We have been received a lot of HMGP (Hazard Mitigation Grant Funding)
from this Act, which this plan is required to have in place. He said the $1 million Safe Room
Rebate Program, the $400,000 Stormwater Mitigation Plan, the $100,000 NOAA Radio Rebate
Program, and some other programs, were all proceeds from the requirements of this plan. The
action before Council tonight, after the briefing, is to adopt a resolution adopting this and it will
be submitted to the State Emergency Management and later to FEMA. This has to be
accomplished, with FEMA approval, by November 1
st of this year. He introduced Curtis Beitel,
PE, CFM, from Carter-Burgess Engineering to give Council said briefing.
Beitel said they have prepared the final report and handed this out to Council. He
said hazards
affecting Lawton are floods, tornadoes, high winds, lightning, hail storms, winter storms,
extreme heat, draught, earthquakes, and other hazards such as expansive soils, wildfires,
hazardous materials events, and dam failures. He went over the hazard identification/profiles
shown in there report. He said the Hazard Mitigation Plan has a rating system of 4 criteria which
are; 1) Structures or facilities that produce, use, or store highly volatile, flammable, explosive,
toxic and/or water-reactive materials; 2) Hospitals, nursing homes and housing likely to have
occupants who may not be sufficiently mobile to avoid injury or death during a disaster; 3)
Police stations, fire stations, vehicle and equipment storage facilities, and emergency operations
centers that are needed for disaster response activities before, during and after the disaster event;
and 4) Public and private utility facilities that are vital to maintaining or restoring normal
services to flooded areas before, during and after the disaster event.
Beitel said the next was the Capability Assessment which involves the following; 1)
Summarize
the enabling codes, ordinances or laws relating to hazard mitigation (City authority), 2) Describe
the roles of City, County, State and Federal governments related to the implementation of the
hazard mitigation plan; and 3) Summarize existing mitigation programs, including Project
Impact. He said our existing mitigation activities under Project Impact include; 1) $20K-start
up
activities; 2) $40K - Public awareness/education; 3) $150K - Retrofitting public
buildings/schools against high winds (window safety film); 4) $4K - Demonstration project
of
window safety film for a non-profit day care facility; $75K - Pilot Safe Room Rebate Program;
5) $50K - Superior building code/Code Plus Home Rebate Incentive Program; and 6) $20K
-
Preparation and implementation of an Emergency Operations Plan.
Beitel went over different Mitigation Goals. The National Mitigation Strategy
is 1) To
substantially increase public awareness of natural hazard risk so the public demands safer
communities in which to work and live; and 2) To significantly reduce the risk of loss of life,
injuries, economic costs and destruction of natural and cultural resources that result from natural
hazards. He said the Oklahoma State Plan Goals are 1) Minimize the destruction and
devastation resulting from disasters; 2) Promote increased coordination among State agencies
and local officials; 3) Integrate hazard mitigation management capabilities and programs into
everyday government functions; and 4) Expand the focus of mitigation measures to include the
major hazard threats to Oklahoma. The mitigation goals for Comanche County are; 1) Protection
from loss of life and personal injury; 2) Protection of critical facilities and infrastructure; 3)
Protection of personal property and reduction of economic injury due to hazards; and 4)
Minimize the costs of disaster response, which is the same goals for the City of Lawton, so the
City's plan can be included in the County Plan.
Beitel then explained the mitigation strategies/activities. First is to incorporate
State Plan
priorities; 1) Acquisition of repetitive loss residential properties; and 2) School
safe rooms. It's
a must to be based on results of vulnerability and risk analyses, specific potential mitigation
activities for each mitigation strategy, and last, the plan must describe how they were identified
and the process used to prioritize them. He over the mitigation activity ranking and the Hazard
Mitigation Action Plan itself. The Plan lists the activities by priority, identifies the organization
responsible for implementing the activity, provides an approximate time frame for
implementation, estimates implementation cost, and potential funding mechanism. There are a
total of 34 items on the priority list.
Beitel then went over the Plan monitoring and update. The Plan requirements
are; 1) must
include monitoring procedures, proposed schedule and evaluation criteria; 2) identify local
agencies that will participate; and 3) include opportunities for public participation. Other
requirements are the annual review of plan by EMAC, followed by a public meeting, and
implement changes and update the plan.
Beitel said our next steps are; ODEM has reviewed draft plan, comments incorporated
to finalize
plan (distributed to Council at the February 24
th meeting), City Council to pass resolution to
adopt the final All Hazard Mitigation Plan, submit adopted plan to ODEM for their review and
approval, and ODEM submits to FEMA Region VI to review and approve by November 1, 2004.
Shanklin asked if this was mandated by the Federal government. Beitel said it
is by the Disaster
Mitigation Act of 2000, which adjusted the Stafford Act. The Stafford Act is the Federal Act
which FEMA provides disaster assistance. Shanklin said we're going to do this whether we want
to or not, everyone is, right? Beitel said yes sir, in order to remain eligible for FEMA grant
funding. Shanklin said for any type of FEMA grant? Beitel said yes.
Shanklin asked if Beitel could give Council a figure of what it's going to cost the
tax payers 10
years from now. Beitel said they worked very hard to include existing City activities so it didn't
cost the tax payers much, in fact, of the $2 million how much actually comes from the tax payers,
in terms of the total amount the City is responsible. Shanklin asked if we are going to do all this
for $2 million.
Bigham said what Beitel is referring to of the $2 million of Federal grants, dealing
with
mitigation, how much has the City paid for. He said all of those primarily, the 25% match has
been paid by the recipient, whatever they are receiving. With exception of the Storm Water
Mitigation Plan, which the City did fund the 25% of that, and the $5,000/25% match of doing
this plan here. Shanklin asked if the Storm Mitigation was included in this. Bigham said
the
results of that plan are listed as those drainage projects you saw at the end of the Action Plan, the
recommendations from that Plan are in here.
Shanklin said he read in the paper that was around a $50-60 million expenditure to the
tax
payers, is that correct? Powell said when it's all totaled up, that's exactly right.
Bigham said the plan was to look at 20 troubled drainage areas in the community and
come up
with solutions for those. That's what is in the Storm Water Mitigation Plan. The priories
of that
are listed in this Plan as an action we can do to mitigate future damage.
Shanklin said it's going to cost Lawton tax payers $50-60 million in the next 10-15
years, that we
haven't looked at? Bigham said there is that potential. He said he thinks you have to look
at this
as a planning document, as well as a requirement from FEMA to receive additional mitigation
funds. This Plan is identifying mitigation actions, based on the rankings this company did. It's
listing all these mitigation efforts that can be made. He said that doesn't mean we have to do all
of them. He said annually we are going to review this action list, redo the priorities, and we
have
to redo the Plan every 5 years. We will continue annually and looking at this document every 5
years to see if these are the priorities we want to do. We are not going to be able to accomplish
all these in the next 5 years, but the priorities are listed in this book. Shanklin said we don't
have
$50-60 million in the next 5 years. We don't have $5 million. Bigham said the other part
of this
is it's a good planning document that shows these priorities we can do. He said to answer the
question if this is a federal requirement, he would have to say no, if we don't want to receive any
additional Hazard Mitigation money from FEMA. If we want to do that and receive that money,
or be eligible for it, this Plan is a requirement.
Powell asked how much money we have received from FEMA in the last 5 years. Bigham said
$2
million. Shanklin said that's Meadowbrook. Bigham said no, the Meadowbrook project is
different federal money than the money he is referring to. Shanklin asked where did the $2
million go and where did we spend it. Bigham said we haven't spent all of it yet. We received
a
$1 million grant for the Safe Room Rebate Program we are still involved with, we received
$400,000 to do the Storm Water Master Plan, we received $100,000 for a NOAA Radio Rebate
Program, which we are about half way through with, we received $50,000 to do some rain and
stream gauges in the urban area, and $400,000 for Project Impact. Shanklin said so if we want
$10, we have to spend $100. Bigham said no, if we want $100, we only have to spend $25.
That's also in-kind services, it's not necessarily a hard match.
Mitchell said as clarification, this also compliments, or overlaps with our Storm Water
Management Plan, so there are some connections between the two.
Bigham said the purpose of this Plan is to look at all the natural hazards, not just
worrying about
storms, let's look at what wind damage can do, tornadoes, earthquakes were mentioned. We have
a fault here that nobody pays attention to, it's not a major one, but the potential is there. All
these
natural hazards are listed in this Plan and mitigation efforts we can do. We don't have to do
all of
them.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Ewing-Holmstrom, to adopt Resolution 04- 24 approving the
All Hazard Mitigation Plan. AYE: Patton, Warren, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom.
ABSTAIN: Shanklin, Bass. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
*Haywood was not in the room during the vote.
BUSINESS ITEMS:
17. Hold public hearings and adopt resolutions declaring the
structures at: 115 NW Columbia
Avenue (Ref: 304 & 305 NW 2
nd Street); 1610 NW Lawton Avenue; 2013 NW Smith Avenue;
709 SW B Avenue; 205 SW 11th Street; 2604 SW G Avenue; 1623 SW Roosevelt Avenue; 2018
SW Jefferson Avenue; 1513 NW Lawton Avenue; 2104 NW Lake Avenue; and 314 SW
Jefferson Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting influence on the
community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City Attorney to
initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood Services to
solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
Powell asked Alltizer what the reference addresses on the property at 115 NW Columbia
Avenue meant. Alltizer said the legal description references the street address as 115 NW
Columbia Avenue. Powell said this is one in the same? Alltizer said yes, it's actually two,
the
way they are split up, there's two commercial structures we are referring to that actually fact 2
nd
Street. Powell said it is 115 NW Columbia Avenue. Alltizer said, but we are referencing
the two
commercial structures, yes.
Alltizer said the first 5 structures are actually voluntary condemnations. The
property owners
would like to take advantage of the reduced tipping fees at our landfill. She said there is no
one
here tonight to discuss those. She said she didn't know if it would be proper to have a public
hearing on all five of those structure together.
Powell said no, he is going to do them separately. He asked if she was counting
304 & 305 NW
2
nd Street as two or one. Alltizer said one. Powell asked if the first five are
asking for tipping
fees reduced. He said he is going to ask for a Public Hearing on each one of those separately
and
then we'll act on all of them under one motion. He asked Vincent if that was alright. Vincent
said yes.
115 NW Columbia Avenue (ref: 304 & 305 NW 2nd Street)
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
1610 NW Lawton Avenue
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
2013 NW Smith Avenue
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
709 SW B Avenue
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
205 SW 11th Street
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
Powell said he has been informed by the City Attorney that we can have one motion for
all five
properties.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Haywood, to approve Resolution Nos. 04- 25 ; 04- 26 ;
04-
27 ; 04- 28 ; and 04- 29 declaring the structures at: 115 NW Columbia Avenue
(Ref: 304 & 305
NW 2nd Street); 1610 NW Lawton Avenue; 2013 NW Smith Avenue; 709 SW B Avenue; 205
SW 11th Street Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting influence
on the
community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City Attorney to
initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood Services to
solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate. AYE: Patton, Haywood, Warren,
Bass,
Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
2604 SW G Avenue
Alltizer said with the resolutions in the packets Council received, they have included
a Code
Violation Checklist for the Property Maintenance Code violations at each property. She said
these were mailed out certified to the property owner before being brought to Council. For this
property, no response has been received from the owner. They met with the owner of this
property a couple months ago and inspected the property. She said they sent him the list of items
needed corrected and he needed to obtain a permit by the middle of February and we have had no
action at that time. Alltizer said she did receive a call from the property owner late this afternoon
saying he was unable to attend tonight, that he didn't have the money to fix up the property, and it
was up for sale. She said the structure has some significant problems, the inside is full of junk
and debris and problems needing fixed as well. City utility services were terminated in August
2003. She and Manny Cruz went to inspect the property yesterday and it was unsecured again.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Patton, to approve Resolution No. 04- 30 declaring the
structures at 2604 SW G Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting
influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City
Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood
Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate. AYE: Haywood, Warren,
Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
1623 SW Roosevelt Avenue
Alltizer said this is a singled residential structure and also has a small accessory
structure and a
storm cellar on the property. A letter was mailed to the property owner in December 2003
requesting an inspection but received no response and eventually received the letter back. She
said a detailed inspection letter on the exterior of the property was then sent and was returned,
unclaimed, yesterday. They received a call from a relative of the property owner last week
saying he would try to be here tonight to explain what they intentions are with the property. It
has not had City utility services for quite some time, terminated in December 1999.
PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Eric Finley, 1804 Garrett Street, Garland, Texas, said he was representing 1623 SW Roosevelt
Avenue. He said he had looked at the property today and is willing to upgrade the property or
whatever is best for the neighbors. He said he spoke with a couple of the neighbors and found
the people he has been paying to keep the property up hasn't been doing what they were supposed
to be doing. He said he will be down here for a couple weeks trying to decide what's best for
the
property and the neighborhood.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT THIS TIME
MOTION by Haywood, SECOND by Shanklin, to approve Resolution No. 04- 31 declaring the
structures at 1623 SW Roosevelt Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a
blighting influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety.
Authorize the City Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court
and Neighborhood Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate. AYE:
Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood. NAY: None
MOTION CARRIED.
2018 SW Jefferson Avenue
Alltizer said structure has suffered a significant fire on or about December 1, 2003. We sent a
letter requesting an inspection prior to the fire, but in the meantime, we believe vagrants started
the fire. We have not had any contact from the property owners or mortgage company on this
property. Prior to the fire there was significant junk and debris and vagrant activity at this
address. We have expended $619.27 for abatement of tall grass and weeds and for securing the
property over the last two years.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
MOTION by Haywood, SECOND by Bass, to approve Resolution No. 04- 32 declaring the
structures at 2018 SW Jefferson Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a
blighting influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize
the City Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court
and Neighborhood Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
AYE:
Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren. NAY: None.
MOTION CARRIED.
1513 NW Lawton Avenue
Alltizer said we have expended quite a bit of money on this property, probably one of
the highest
ones to date, for a structure that we have not demolished, which is $1,110.46, mainly for mowing
the grass for the last couple years. This structure has had no City utility services since March
2000 and was unsecured when we took the photos yesterday. It has been a chronic problem and
has had no contact from property owners or mortgage company and every letter we have sent has
been returned unclaimed.
PUBLIC HEARING OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
MOTION by Hanna, SECOND by Patton, to approve Resolution No. 04- 33 declaring the
structures at 1513 NW Lawton Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting
influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City
Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood
Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
Shanklin asked for clarification. They couldn't find an owner of any kind and
have the taxes
been paid or not? Alltizer said she wasn't sure about the taxes, but the owner of record is in
California and also listed at this address, but we have not been able to have anyone claim those
letters and there are no mortgages on the property at this time. Shanklin said there is a process
through the court system how to get sold at the Sheriff's sale and so forth, is that correct?
Vincent said if we go through the dilapidation process and have one of the District Judges take
the case and he approves it, we will then order it demolished by the home owner. If they don't
do
it the City would be required to do it. Shanklin asked if we had to take it through the court first.
Vincent said yes. Alltizer said they have been having very good success through the District
Court.
VOTE ON MOTION WAS HELD AT THIS TIME
AYE: Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass.
NAY:
None. MOTION CARRIED.
2104 NW Lake Avenue
Alltizer said we have had this structure before Council and it was condemned in November
2001
and was brought back to Council and the resolution was rescinded to allow the property owner
time to make the required repairs. He made some progress but did not correct all the Code
violations so we are bringing it back tonight. When the owner received the Notice of Hearing he
came in a applied for a building permit but it was already scheduled for tonight so she told him
he would have to wait. He says his daughter is going to move into the house so he will have to
make the necessary repairs. Alltizer said that hasn't had utility service since 1987.
PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Haywood, to adopt Resolution No. 04- 34 declaring the
structures at 2104 NW Lake Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting
influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City
Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood
Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
Shanklin asked how are they going to move in if they haven't had water, do we just allow
the
water to be turned on? Alltizer said no sir, he would have to make the necessary repairs and then
open a City utility services account. He has applied for a building permit last week. Shanklin
said they can't just move in there and say they're living there now, correct? Alltizer said they
are
not supposed to, no. Shanklin said he didn't want to hear not supposed to. We will not turn
the
water on for habitable use. Mitchell said we will not turn the water on until they comply with
the
Building Permit requirements. Alltizer said under the current Code they have to obtain a
certificate of occupancy before this structure would go off the D & D list.
VOTE ON THE MOTION WAS HELD AT THIS TIME
AYE: Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna.
NAY:
None. MOTION CARRIED.
314 SW Jefferson Avenue
Alltizer said she talked with a gentleman whose mother is the property owner of this
structure.
There are significant problems there as far as criminal activity. LPD brought this to our
attention. The main problems with the structure is it's had a small fire last year and we went
in
and inspected the property and provided that list to the grandson of the property owner. He says
he plans on obtaining a permit and remodeling the structure and asks if Council would table this
for 30 days. It does have current utility services.
PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AND CLOSED WITH NO PARTICIPANTS
MOTION by Haywood, SECOND by Shanklin, to adopt Resolution No. 04- 35 declaring
the
structures at 314 SW Jefferson Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting
influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City
Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood
Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate. AYE: Ewing-Holmstrom,
Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
18. Consider awarding a construction contract to Bowen Construction,
Inc. for the Lake
Ellsworth Gate Repair Project #2004-1.
Ihler said on February 24
th Council authorized staff to prepare plans and specifications and go
out and advertise for sandblasting and painting the gates at Lake Ellsworth, sealing the cracks on
the spillway on the upstream side, and replacing the metal race plates that the seals abut up to.
Taking advantage of the unfortunate situation with the low lake levels at Lake Ellsworth, trying
to do that before we get water on top the gate. We received four bids on March 16th and the
prices ranged from $227,000 to just over $300,000 and it's staff's recommendation that we award
it to Bowen Construction Company from Oklahoma City in the amount of $227,625. He said one
adjustment he needs to update Council on is we show a current balance in the agenda item of
$810,720 and since that time there have been some invoices paid and the current balance is
$702,000 in that account. We would ask Council approve $250,000 to take care of any
contingencies or testing needing done.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Haywood, to award a construction contract to Bowen
Construction, Inc. for the Lake Ellsworth Gate Repair Project #2004-1 in the amount of
$250,000. AYE: Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom.
NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
19. Consider authorization of the replacement of a collapsed
storm drain located on Terrace
Hills Drive and approve a funding source.
Ihler said on March 4
th a 42" corrugated metal storm drain pipe located on the east side of
Terrace Hills Blvd. collapsed as a result of age and condition of the corrugated metal pipe. It
completely rusted through and we need to provide a fund source to replace approximately 500
feet of that 42" pipe on the east side of Terrace Hills Blvd. If approved, we will do that
with in-house staff to minimize cost and we are estimating somewhere in the neighborhood of $40-50,000
to take care of that. Staff is recommending the funding source be the 1995 CIP we
utilized to fund the construction of Flowermound Road from Gore Blvd. south to Lee Blvd. He
said that area and project is complete and we do have some additional expenses of about $65,000
we are aware of that we will have to pay to ODOT as part of the process. We have a current
funding balance of $117,000 in that account, so we are asking we go ahead and utilize $40-50,000 to
take care of that problem.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked what was the alternative funding source other than this CIP money
that
would have been for Flowermound. Ihler said the alternative funding source would be the small
remaining amount in the 67
th Street drainage problem we had and entered into a lawsuit and it
was settled. There's about $25,000 or so in that account, but we still have some final issues
in
getting some right-of-way on that project, so that is really still on-going. The only other accounts
Ihler said he is aware of that we could utilize would be City Staff General Fund Account and we
just don't have it.
Shanklin said you could make a motion and put $2 on the water bill as a sur charge for
a month.
Ewing-Holmstrom said frankly she doesn't feel like taxing anymore. Shanklin said that's
one
way of getting it done. Ewing-Holmstrom said she doesn't think it's worth putting $2 on every
citizen in this community. We've got the money, we're just going to have to go to another section
of town.
Shanklin asked how long is this drainage ditch. Ihler said it's a 42" pipe
and approximately 500
linear feet we are having to replace.
Powell said this is corrugated iron, right? Ihler said it's corrugated metal pipe. It was put in at
the time of the sub-division was developed, so it's about 40-50 years old.
Mitchell said other possible funding sources would be the 2000 CIP, you have some interest
we
are earning on this CIP, so it's just a matter of which money do you want to spend. So, the 2000
CIP would be another alternative.
MOTION by Patton, SECOND by Haywood, to authorize the replacement of a collapsed storm
drain located on Terrace Hills Drive and fund it from the 1995 CIP. AYE: Patton, Haywood,
Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Shanklin. NAY: Ewing-Holmstrom. MOTION CARRIED.
20. Consider an ordinance amending Section 19-1-111, Article
19-1, Chapter 19, Lawton City
Code, 1995, by clarifying camping site reservations procedures, providing for severability and
declaring an emergency.
Shahan said we are requesting amending the ordinance concerning our camping site reservations
for non-preferred sites. Basically the non-preferred camping sites do not have a restriction of
allowing a camper to stay there continuously throughout the season, so we have made those
changes for the preferred sites, which is 14 days. Now we are requesting to make that change for
the non-preferred sites for 21 days. So an individual could only stay at that campsite for 21
days
and would not be able to return there during that camping season. They could use another site
but not hold that same site. The second amendment is to provide a proof of unit ownership for
the senior citizens to be able to have the reduced fee for their camping site. There's those who
are using camping sites and saying it's for their Grandmother or whomever, and basically we
need someway in showing proof of ownership of that unit, so we request Council change this for
us.
Shanklin asked what was the required proof. Shahan said show proof of camping
unit ownership
would be a title. Shanklin asked if Shahan had found out anything on people staying there year
round and acting like they weren't, did you ever run anybody out? Shahan said we have.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked if this would stop the people who are living there and basically
taking
root, with refrigerators outside, and lights and the things we've seen out there.
Shahan said this is addressing the east side camp ground, so those individuals who are
staying
there throughout the whole summer, this will address.
Vincent read the ordinance title at this time.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Patton, to adopt Ordinance No. 04- 13 amending Section
19-1-111, Article 19-1, Chapter 19, Lawton City Code, 1995, by clarifying camping site reservations
procedures, providing for severability and declaring an emergency. AYE: Haywood, Warren,
Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton. NAY: None.
MOTION CARRIED.
(Title Only)
Ordinance No. 04- 13
An Ordinance pertaining to Recreation amending Section 19-1-111, Article 19-1, Chapter
19,
Lawton City Code, 1995, by clarifying camping site reservation procedures, providing for
severability and declaring an emergency.
21. Consider approving a supplemental amendment to the General
Fund Budget of $75,000 to
Neighborhood Services Division for the administration and oversight of easement cleanup for the
months of April, May and June 2004.
Mitchell said we have had requests from several utility companies to address the easement
problem in our community. At the last meeting Council asked staff to develop a plan and wanted
to report we were unable to schedule that meeting in the short window we had in the last two
weeks. We are planning to schedule a meeting with not only the utility companies, but several
developers in the community, to talk on this issue. He said he thinks it's more than just a
financial issue. There are some concerns about existing ordinances and how we address those
and how we work together to resolve the revocable permit issue, along with a couple sections in
our ordinances that need reviewing or revised. Mitchell said he has prepared a handout for
Council which is a memo that follows a report that the Public Works Director provided that
shows the costs of cleaning some alleys and right-of-ways we did to allow our sanitation trucks
to operate. We show the cost of that tree trimming program was about $24,000 and we would
estimate a daily cost for providing that type of activity or service, would be about $1,300 per day.
Shanklin asked for how many people. He asked if this was the program he has asked
about.
Mitchell said yes.
Patton said basically what we wanted to do is, we know there is a long term fix in this
and this is
not designed to be the long term fix. This is just merely to get started in some of the problem
areas like we saw in the video two weeks ago. This is just to address those immediate needs and
he knows the City Manager will work with the utility companies and Neighborhood Services, as
far as getting a long term solution hammered out.
MOTION by Patton, SECOND by Ewing-Holmstrom, to approve a supplemental amendment to
the General Fund Budget of $75,000 to Neighborhood Services Division for the administration
and oversight of easement cleanup for the months of April, May and June 2004.
Shanklin said what are we going to do with the money? How are you going to do
it Larry?
Where's it going and who's going to do it?
Mitchell said that's one of the questions. Patton said we have this showing how
much it will
cost. He said he's not saying we have to use all of the $75,000, he's just saying we ear mark
it.
Shanklin said he had the minutes pulled after he read the agenda item and we discussed
this last
time, very explicitly and the Mayor said direction had been given to the City Manager that he
(Shanklin) was asking for the whole $300,000 in the next budget. If we don't know where we're
going to spend that $75,000, he has a little problem in just looking at this. We are adding in
the
use of our own equipment, as to get to that $23,000. He said he didn't understand that and how to
get to the $1,300 a day.
Ihler said he had been requested to provide Council the cost for doing the alley tree
trimming
cleanup program we had performed on the weekends. We had broken it up to show we had the
man hour costs, the equipment costs, and we state in the memo that the equipment costs could be
removed, if you use the City equipment as part of any kind of program in the future. He said if
you look at the labor costs, you are looking somewhere in the neighborhood of $11,000.
Shanklin asked if that was per week. Ihler said no, for the whole 40 weeks we performed
this.
Shanklin asked if this would just cost us $11,000 if we had done this for 40 weeks. Ihler
said
this program was for 18 Saturdays and we had 4 people working, two from Streets and 2 from
Solid Waste Collections and we used the FEMA cost prices that we always do for equipment. If
you included the equipment, it was $23,614. If you subtract the equipment cost, the labor cost
was $11,000. Shanklin said we spent $11,000 for 18 days.
Mitchell said that was the actual cost, the money we spent. If you were doing
this program long
term, he thinks you need to look at the $1,300 per day cost because you are going to have
equipment maintenance and other costs associated with it.
Ihler said we used the Pole Cat so they could use the bucket to get up and cut the trees
and during
the week, we use that in the Street Division, it's not available during the week. He said you would
have to purchase that type of equipment if you wanted to go ahead and use it for this.
Shanklin said we are going to have to buy all kinds of equipment then, if we are going
to go into
this, is that it? Mitchell said yes.
Ihler said that's for an alley cleaning program. He said he doesn't know that
you would need a
Pole Cat for an easement cleaning and mowing and large grass. He said that's not what he was
asked to look at.
Shanklin said he thinks we can get it done by spending about $300,000, but if we are
going to go
in and create a brand new division and director, etc. he just can't be part of it.
Patton said all he's saying is we just start now. Obviously there's a need right
now.
Shanklin said he has been fighting this for about 3 years. The correctional facility
was going to
help us and we bought equipment for them and they came 3 days on our allies and right-of-ways.
We have not been successful at it except for these guys who volunteered, on their off day, they
were paid, and four of them worked.
Warren asked if we had the same abilities to expend tax payer funds in easements, as
well as
right-of-ways. Are we able to go in and expend money to remove people's buildings and things
of that nature in an easement?
Vincent said buildings and things that the person's had permission to put up at the
time, no sir. If
we are going in there to remove a tree that has weighted down and is crushing a gas line or
crushing a sewer line or something like that, yes. Right now, the City Code allows fences in
easements. The pictures they were showing the other night are under the old Code where you
fenced to the property line and then created this no-man's land between fences on easements, that
are still really the property owner's property.
Warren said originally he thought we were going to expend funds on Admin. Go out
and give
them an order to clean up and if they don't, we could take them to court and he started thinking
about this and how are we going to spend money to move structures, etc.
Vincent said if we have an illegal structure out there, that's a different ballgame
all together, but
it will be a case by case on each property.
Mitchell said we did that in the two pilot programs in Wards 1 & 2, we did it administratively.
We sent notices and did it administratively and that would be another way of doing it. Warren
asked if that's what we are really looking at here, is doing that type of program where we're just
going out there and touching the citizen and say they are going to have to clean this up. If you
don't, we're going to have to take other actions.
Mitchell said then you go through the abatement process. Warren said we're not
just going in
there and mowing easements. Shanklin said not necessarily mowing easements but he can see us
going in there and cutting down the vegetation and foliage that's above your head and leave it
where you can walk through it.
Powell asked if this meeting needs to take place with our utility companies that we
had asked for
the other night and then bring back a plan of action and talk about that $75,000 at that time. He
said right now he doesn't know that we've had any direction for that $75,000. He said he just
asked the Manager and isn't sure we have any direction for that, so the thing to do would be
having that meeting with out utility companies and get a plan of action there and then come back.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION by Bass, SECOND by Hanna, to table this until the next meeting.
AYE: Bass, Hanna, Devine, Shanklin, Haywood. NAY: Ewing-Holmstrom, Patton, Warren.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION CARRIED.
22. Discuss and possibly amend Warning Siren Activation Procedures.
Bass said he brought this up because he didn't know we had a committee for the siren
alarm that
goes off. He had a lot of phone calls on this on how high the winds have to be before the sirens
go off, does the County have their own sirens, does the City have theirs, etc.
Doug Wells said back in 1999 the Mayor appointed a committee to come up with a policy
on
sirens within the City. Warren at the time, was the Chairman of that committee and the
committee met and made recommendations to the Mayor shortly there after, Warren left the
Council and Baxter came on the Council and took over as Chairman of the committee. The later
part of 2001 a recommendation was made to the Council that Baxter brought up; the discussion
at the time was with Chief Meteorologist at Channel 7 at the time, Andy Wallace and he felt our
recommendation of 70 mph winds was too low and it should be 90 mph. Wells said Council
voted to have a policy of 70 mph and the sirens would be sounded.
Haywood said he was on that committee too. He said didn't we buy about $300,000
worth of
sirens? Wells said 17 additional sirens for around the City, yes. He said it was $225,000
he
thinks.
Powell said we found during that study there was only two sirens east of the interstate
and that
has certainly been updated on the east side.
Wells said they came up with a plan that basically covers the whole city and the policy
implemented by Council in 2001 was if straight line winds exceeding 70 mph the sirens will be
sounded. If a tornado is spotted by either radar or by storm spotters that will have a direct
impact
on the City of Lawton, the sirens will be sounded.
Patton said his understanding is a tornado warning is defined as when a tornado is either
indicated by radar or has been spotted by a trained observer. He asked Wells if that was his
understanding of a warning.
Wells said yes and if it's going to impact the City of Lawton.
Patton asked if on March 4
th, when this high winds happened, it is his understanding we were
under a tornado warning at that time.
Wells said Comanche County was under a Tornado Warning at that time.
Patton said we did not have the sirens going. Wells said we did not have the sirens
going.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked why not. Wells said based on the information we had available at the
time, there was not going to be a direct impact on the City of Lawton. Ewing-Holmstrom asked
Wells if he knew if the County sirens went off. Wells said he believes Cache sounded their
sirens and Chuck Jones recommended Geronimo and maybe Walters sound their sirens. Ewing-Holmstrom
asked if Wells knew what siren was closest to the Lawton Community Correctional
Facility on Coombs Road. Wells said not right off hand he doesn't.
Wells said he's sorry, he just doesn't know, there's 30 of them out there. Ewing-Holmstrom
said
she thinks it's considered a County siren and there are people who work there that said the siren
went off and she doesn't know what the connection between the County and the City is. Is there
communication during bad weather where one says we're going to set our sirens off. Do you
communicate with the County during situations like that? Wells said communications wasn't
very good that day and since that time he has had a direct line installed between us and them
where either one of us can pick it up and talk and say what we are doing and why. We also, two
years ago, had a direct line installed between us and KSWO and the County has the same thing,
so we can talk directly with the weather people out there.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked who actually makes the decision to flip the switch and blow the
sirens.
Wells said our policy says the Emergency Manager/IS Director, which is him, the Mayor,
City
Manager, the Police Chief, or his designee or representative, and/or the Fire Chief, or his
designee or representative.
Ewing-Homstrom said she was standing in the City Manager and Mayor's office when all
this
was going on and the sirens were going off just outside of Lawton and none of us knew what to
do. That's kind of scary and no one knew what the policy was and she thinks that's another
reason this was brought up. She said if everybody knew it was a warning, it was all over the
news that it was a warning, but the sirens didn't go off and it states the warning sirens will be
sounded when a tornado.....
Wells said to read on, the last sentence says, if it's going to directly impact the
City of Lawton
and that's the decision we have to sit over there and make. Unfortunately, he said he was at a
National Weather Service Conference in Norman that day because we never had those kind of
storms that early in March. He said David Wood, who he sent to the OK 1
st Weather School, was
there watching the weather. We have two radar feeds, one from OK 1st and one from Meter
logics that gives us up-to-date radar information. We have text pagers that will go off based
on
an Alert Manager that we have that says if these conditions are met, give us a warning. We have
storm spotters in the field and based on all the information he had available to him at that time,
there was nothing going to directly impact the City of Lawton, so he did not sound the siren.
Wells said the storm was going north east and winds were at 50 mph. Ewing-Holmstrom
said
she was curious. If you say the winds only went up to 50 mph, how do we explain what everyone
say happened at Cameron. Wells said that was winds at about 40-45 mph and it doesn't take very
high winds to cause damage like that, if it's going the right direction. Ewing-Holmstrom said
she
doesn't think that's what one of our reliable weather sources, Channel 7 says, and that's her
concern. We rely on those weather reports. Wells said he doesn't think Channel 7 ever said
that
day that there was any winds above 70 mph.
Bass said if you were watching Channel 7 that day, you would have seen the tractor trailer
was
turned over by high winds, so how hard does the wind have to blow?
Wells said if you have a trailer being turned over down below Walters on the turn pike
and the
storm's moving to the east, is that going to impact Lawton?
Bass said he has no idea, but he's saying when you are watching TV and you see the 18
wheelers
turned over the wind blew it over and if it's coming towards Lawton, it's going to impact us, that's
for sure.
Wells said that one wasn't, that was going east.
Bass said maybe you should lower the miles of the wind speed down. Do you think
it would help
anything? If you think this is a real fool proof plan, I think you're wrong. You have the Police
Chief, the Fire Chief, the Mayor, anybody could, but they don't have time, they're not here, there
has to be one guy responsible for this decision, in my opinion.
Wells said there is. That day David Wood was filling in for me, he was over in
the EEOC with
the ammeter radio and the weather spotters from around our area. He had the decision making
power that day. Normally I would have been there and would have that responsibility.
Warren said he found a copy of what the committee submitted when he was the Chairman
and
will have copies made for everyone. He said there's multiple problems here and you have to
decide how you want to attack it first. Whether or not you want to have a shelter siren, which
means we have a problem right this instant. Get in your bathtub and cover up and that's basically
what we're operating under right now, immanent danger. The committee discussed having a
safety zone which would be a 20-30 mile radius circle that anytime a list of criteria was met
within that circle that was headed this way, not that it was necessarily even going to get here, but
that it was headed this way, you would sound the sirens and that would give people an
opportunity to stop what they are doing, turn on the TV or radio, something to have an idea of
what's going on. He said he was on his computer as this was all happening and this is the notice
he read;
"At 1:34 p.m., Central Standard Time, the National Weather Service in Norman, issued
a tornado
warning for Comanche County and Southwest Oklahoma until 2:15. At 1:34 a tornado was
detected by doplar radar, 14 miles southwest of Faxon moving northeast at 60 mph. Locations in
the warning include Cache, Faxon, Ft. Sill, Lake Lawtonka, Lawton, Medicine Park. This
tornado is likely obscured by rain and may not be visible, abandon mobile homes and vehicles, if
possible, move to a basement or storm shelter, otherwise move to an interior room or hallway on
the lowest floor and stay away from windows."
Warren said at 1:55 they issued a continuance of that same warning:
"At 1:55 p.m. Central Standard Time, doplar radar detected
a strong circulation approaching
the area between Cache and west Lawton."
Warren said the way he looks at it is this storm started in Faxon, or even past there,
but it was
detected in Faxon, heading this way at 60 mph. How far is Faxon from Lawton, 12 miles? It's
on
us and there's not time. He said the argument he has heard is it didn't hit us, it went west of
us
between us and Cache and there wasn't a tornado anyway. He said that doesn't wash with him
because, at any point in that 12 mile path, it could have made a course correction that would have
been on us in a minute and a half.
Shanklin asked what Warren would have done with it he had of heard that.
Warren said if he had his finger on the button and he read this, he would have pushed
the button.
He said he thinks there is even an argument to have pushed the button when it was at Faxon
heading this way. When you've got one half way here, you can't be the one to decide is it going
to go left or right. He thinks you have to say it might go right and you have to push the button.
He said the argument there is, if we do that on a regular basis, the people could become....
Shanklin said wolf.....
Warren said he looks at it as our responsibility to give them the option to not pay
attention. If
they chose not to pay attention, then that's their problem. He suggests we look at it again and
idling strongly to the safety area and give the warning and let the people look at the TV and
listen to the radio and decide for themselves. There's 100,000 people out there that we have to
protect in some way, shape, or form, and there are people out there who are going to have to do
different things. You have people with children at the park. People who are already in their
house, and they have to have the chance to make that decision. If we just wait till the very last
instant.....he said he believes we are responsible for giving them as much warning as we can.
Patton said if you look at the numbers, the cry wolf deal is something he thought about
too. He
checked the numbers and the number of tornado warnings issued for Comanche County are very
low each year, less than 5 each year, so he doesn't think we would get into the situation where
we're blowing the sirens every other week in the spring.
Ewing-Holmstrom said an issue no one has touched on, and knowing from personally having
coming from radio, if you remember that Sunday night, everybody was scrambling to get to the
storm shelters and Channel 7 had actually been knocked off the air. There wasn't but one radio
station on the air that night and they were actually live, but they weren't doing any weather
updates. She said of all the radio stations, and there are 7 in Lawton, she can tell you that
at any
given time after 6:00 p.m., one or two are actually broadcasting live. All the rest are what's
called the satellite feed, or it's computer generated voices. We are in a very serious situation
in
Lawton if you are turning on a radio to get directions on what to do as far as weather. If Channel
7 gets knocked off the air, like it did that Sunday night, there was one radio station on the air that
night because she remembers trying to figure out where are we going to get weather information.
There was nothing coming on that radio station about the weather, so the only other recourse is
the sirens. We're kind of in a unique situation here in Lawton, when we don't have every radio
station on the air. That particular day when this happened, March 4
th, everyone got knocked off
the air except KCCU and if you didn't think to go to that station, you couldn't get information.
Wells said that's one thing we are going to be putting on the website and advertising.
KCCU has
come up with an agreement with KSWO and they are going to do live weather simulcasts from
now on.
Shanklin said in 1979 we had a tornado hit Lawton, sirens went off, his neighbor and
good
friend, jumped in his car and ran over to 6
th and Washington and got turned upside down. He
said he sat there in his backyard and didn't even know there was a storm. So when the siren goes
off, what are you going to do? Jump in your car and run right into the face of it, alarm people
and scare them to death, and want to go get the radio.
Hadley said that brings up a point he would like to stress. Our public shelters
we have identified
are not set up to house the community of Lawton, at large. Those are primarily set up for people
that are out away from their homes, out without shelter, for them to have someplace to go.
Devine said his shop in 1979 was at 212 Lee at that time and the sirens went off probably
about a
minute before the tornado hit his building. It was already in the city limits of Lawton when the
sirens went off. He said he was sitting at this desk and it blew all of his building away except
one room he ran into and laid on the floor. He said it killed the man right accross the street
from
him and those sirens never had an opportunity for anybody to go to any kind of safety other than
he had maybe 10 seconds to do it. He said he doesn't think you can cry wolf too much on this
because when the sirens go off, that is a warning and you never know how long it's going to take
that tornado to get here. Even though there may be one in Faxon and you've got rotation, that
tornado can come out of the sky anywhere in a matter of seconds. He said he doesn't think the
people will consider crying wolf on it because if he had of had warning, it would have been a lot
better and the guy right accross the street from his who was killed, they didn't have any warning.
It was a mechanic shop and in a matter of seconds it was on top of him.
Wells said history shows when we sound the sirens, we will have somewhere between a
few
hundred and a couple thousand people head for the shelters and it doesn't matter when it is. He
said that is not the issue at all. The issue is what policy does the City Council want and we
will
implement that policy. The policy right now as stressed in 2001 was they were to be used as
warning sirens. What we advertised through Channel 7 and the newspaper and everybody else
was, if you hear the sirens, head to the bathtub or some type of shelter. If the Council wants
to
change that policy and set the sirens off when there's a tornado warning issued, we will be glad to
comply with that, it's up to whatever the Council wants to do.
Powell said guidelines is all you need right there? It's very clear what it says
and what that
committee put in place.
Wells said the committee recommendations Warren was talking about was changed when Baxter
was on the committee. We went to the recommendations that are in the book now.
Powell said aren't they 70 mph? Wells said 70 mph. Powell said or a sited
tornado? Wells said
sited tornado either by radar or by spotters. Powell said aren't we connected with the Nation
Weather Service in Norman? Wells said yes. Powell said you can't get much better than that.
Wells said the question is when do you want to do it? Right now, the decision
is whether it's
going to have an impact on the City of Lawton.
Powell said if he had of seen what Warren read, he would have sounded the sirens.
Wells said that's not our policy.
Ewing-Holmstrom said then we need to fix that.
Wells said that's up to the Council.
Devine said back in the 60's, when he was on the police department, one of the best
warning
devices we had was the police officers were dispatched to the side of town the storm was on. We
didn't have sirens and we used the police department and the officers as spotters more or less and
they went to the far corner of town where that storm was coming from. If we saw a tornado on
the ground or any indication of rotation, we actually drove the streets with our sirens on in the
police cars. He said he doesn't understand why we don't use the police officers today and the
fire
department we have. By the time you look on the computer or the radio station says it's 70 mph
winds, it's a little late to sound the sirens because the damage has already started. You have
got
to have pre-warning on anything you do. The policy is great but if you don't have a way of
setting that policy into effect before it gets here, it's a little late to close the barn door after
the
horse gets out.
Hadley said in years past, the fire department has done some of that, as the police
department has
and he thinks the modern thinking is that we need to protect the first responders so we have
people available to respond to the citizens once and if, the city is hit. They should be protected
as well. Everybody knows a vehicle is the worst place to be should a tornado actually strike. He
said it would be his recommendation that we not use first responders for that. He said the public
education piece of this is we do have sirens that cover the city much better than we did back in
that day and it was probably much more necessary than it would be today.
Devine said the problem is we don't have anybody that will say push the button. It's
too late by
the time it comes time for someone sitting here reading a computer, to push the button you have
there.
Wells said he didn't want to argue but that just isn't true. He said we have storm
spotters, trained
storm spotters out in the field. Devine asked where in the world were they at a couple of weeks
ago when it blew into Cameron stadium. Wells said they were out in the field. Devine said
they
didn't see it coming, everybody else did. There was a black cloud come right accross 38
th Street.
Jerry Thornton, 504 SW 75
th Street, said he was on the Mayor's committee with Warren,
Haywood and two other citizens and Wells. He said Wells just made a statement that was the
truest thing he has heard here this evening and that is "it's not our policy", and that's
true. He
said someone in the city has changed the policy from what was put out by the committee. He
said that policy set up a 30 mile radius around the City of Lawton, winds expected to reach 70
mph, or a tornado coming into Comanche County. When it crossed that 30 mile barrier, the
warning sirens were supposed to be blown and he has not heard that mentioned this evening but
that was the recommendation of the committee. He said he was in Altus the day of this storm
and when he heard NOAA weather radio issued the tornado alert he was in their office on Park
Lane. He got into his vehicle and came all the way back to Lawton. The sirens were never
blown, in the meantime, the Chattanooga Airport was particularly demolished, airplanes were
turned over, and he personally drove by the trading post in Cache and saw the roof setting in the
parking lot. He said this was all over the news and still no sirens were blown. He said
later that
day he called Woods from his office, he identified himself as a member of that committee, and
asked him why he didn't blow the sirens. He said Woods told him that if a tornado warning was
part of that policy, that he just made a mistake, he didn't know that and Thornton said he hopes
that's a recorded phone call because he wished Council could hear what he heard when he
interviewed him. He said he talked with some police officers that afternoon and the damage at
Cameron was so severe that the rocks off the roof went completely through the middle of the
cars. He said that wasn't a 30-40 mph wind, that was a very very severe wind. He said anything
coming from that part of the County or when it's coming from the east and crosses that 30 mile
barrier, should be considered about to have a direct impact on the City of Lawton. He said the
committee worked almost 2 years to get this done. The first time it was used, and used
successfully, he can remember the Mayor sitting right here asking one of these City officials,
what part of 70 mph didn't you understand, when it wasn't blowing the first time. The next time
we had a storm, the sirens were blown and as far as he knows, that was the last time they were
every blown. He said we spend a lot of money. The committee has gone from 6 people to
probably 40 people and we look at nucleaur disasters, chemical spills, we look at all kinds of
ways to get federal monies, but still, the number one disaster, as pointed out by the engineering
firm here tonight, is tornados in this town. We are going to get hit every year during this time.
He has done his own survey and has talked with probably 100 people since this last storm and
has yet, found one person say, we don't want to be hollering wolf, he can't find anybody. They
all want to be warned, they all feel they are adults and they should have the ability to make those
decisions on their own. He said the shelters were never designed for storm shelters, they were
designed for people to go to after they had lost their homes in the storm. There was a part of
this
plan he guesses the City dropped, where we were to interact, and he believes we had a member of
the Lawton Public Schools. We were going to educate the children that these sirens were being
blown to tell you to take cover where you were at and to give you time to do that and not to run
out looking for storm shelters, we don't have any. You take cover in your home. We were
going
to use the children in the schools to accomplish that. That was one of the better items in the
plan,
to get the word to the parents through the children. Those kids will know what to do when a
storm comes.
Thornton said he would like to suggest when this plan was implemented or suggested,
Richard
Atkins was still the Civil Defense Director for the City and the County and he was one of the
people authorized to blow the sirens. There has never been a siren button at the County EOC.
He would like to recommend to the Council to direct Public Works, or whoever, to install a
button at the County. We are still part of Comanche County, we have a new EOC Director and
he believes he would have blown the sirens that day, communication problems or not. He would
have taken the action to do it. He blew them in Geronimo, he blew them in Cache, he blew them
in Faxon, and in Chattanooga, he was trying to blow the sirens that day. He didn't have a way
to
blow the City sirens. He said when the people from the County call over here and they say, and
he has heard this on tape, "I'm Richard Atkins, blow the sirens," they say who's Richard Atkins?
They don't know who those people are over there. Dispatchers turn over and when you are
trying to use a telephone or plan on Wells being here every time we have a storm, we know that's
not going to happen.
Thornton suggests placing a button at the City and County. This storm was in early
March and
we normally don't have storms then, but the Fire Chief was at a meeting out of town, the Police
Chief had left town for a meeting, Wells was out of town for a meeting, and we had a person in
charge of EOC, based on what he told him, was not familiar with what the policy was. From
what you all said, the City Manager didn't know he was authorized to blow the sirens. He said
he
didn't believe the two Deputy Police Chiefs knew they had the authority to blow the sirens. He
said he believes we have a complete breakdown here in this system and one of the reasons is you
have far too many people to do it. Let's narrow it down. If it's Wells you want to give
it to, give
it to him. If he is gone and he leaves somebody in charge, it still falls on his shoulders. If
it's not
done right, let's have some accountability for it. Let's don't just continue to let this happen,
spring after spring. Let's narrow it down to one person and when the person leaves town,
someone's left in charge that understands it.
Mitchell said he would like to clarify one point, that he did call over to David Woods,
prior to
Ewing-Holmstrom coming into the office and wanted to know what he was seeing on the radar.
He said he did watch it on his computer screen and he believes, based on the policy, Woods had
the authority to blow the sirens, had he seen conditions met the policy. He said what he and
Ewing-Holmstrom talked about was whether or not the sirens had been blown and he hadn't
heard the sirens. He said they didn't know whether the sirens had been blown or not, but Woods
was in charge and he followed the policy he thought was in place and he made that judgment
call. Whether or not that was the right call, in his judgment, he made the right call. He
said he
thinks it's important for us, if we think we need to do something different, then let's change the
policy, but if you change the policy, we have to have a lot of public education as to why we are
changing the policy and what that policy means. He said if you want to blow the sirens every
time there's a tornado warning, that's fine, but he thinks the other part of that is educating the
community to let them know that's the condition in which we are going to blow the sirens.
Ewing-Holmstrom said he has a very good point and we are going to have to get all media
outlets
to work with us. The general public does not know that typically, after 6:00 p.m., if you are
depending on a radio station to break in and tell you, you are looking at KLAW, and they bring
staff in at night, or KCCU. That's an issue that needs to be addressed when we are talking about
educating the public.
Powell said that's a good point, but still, when we are plugged into that National Weather
Service
in Norman, Oklahoma, it just doesn't get any better than that. We are using them, aren't we?
That's who we said we were going to use. Wells said yes. Powell said the only other
thing he
would like to add to that is that 30 mile radius. Wells said if that's what we want to do, that's
all
the Council has to tell us and that's what we'll do.
Shanklin said he worries about the fact, since he doesn't listen to KLAW and not all
people does,
and he very seldom turns to Channel 7 and then he doesn't hear, what are you going to do for him
and others like him? Let him get all worried and get out in the middle of one of them? That's
the other part you have to worry about is getting everyone alarmed and run out into the middle of
it.
Ewing-Holmstrom said Shanklin just missed that; educate the public on what those shelters
are
for.
Warren said we need to explain, in no uncertain terms, regardless of what we do, we
need to
spend some money and educate the citizens of Lawton and say when there's a storm, you stay at
home. He said the people who need to worry about looking for shelter are those who live in
mobile homes, multi-family dwellings, such as apartments, etc., but mostly people who are
caught out in the storm. If you are at home, you stay there and if you get in your car and get
blown away by a tornado, he said he's sorry, we have educated you to stay at home and that's all
we can do.
Powell said we have spent 45 minutes on this. Ewing-Holmstrom said this is important.
Powell
said yes it is but you can only say the same things ten times, then perhaps we will get the
message. He said we are right on top of storm season so if you want to give directions to Wells,
make any amendments, etc., let's do it right now and move on.
Wells said if you want them sounded when a tornado warning is issued for Comanche County,
say that and that's what we will do.
Ewing-Holmstrom said Thornton has a valid point about the within 30 miles of the city
limits.
Powell asked if that is what Council wanted, a 30 mile radius of an imminent 70 mph
winds.
Warren said as a stop gap, he would say 20 miles just for the time being and he would
ask the
Mayor or Council to appoint another committee or ask that this be looked at again by the
committee we have. We need to look at the education issue and a lot of different things and see
what we can do to make this deal work smoother.
Bass said he agrees with that but also, you forget how many portable buildings you have
at
Lawton Public Schools. How many kids do you have out there? This is a serious issue and
you
need to focus on this.
Wells said we've done a couple things such as the NOAA Radios. We've put one in
every school
so the schools are aware of what is going on, and the Safe Room Rebate Program are a couple
things we have done.
Haywood said on March 4
th, someone, somewhere, called all the schools. They evacuated, so
they did have a plan of action.
Powell said you have heard the majority of the Council say a 30 mile radius....
Wells said when a tornado warning is issued for Comanche County.
Powell said that's exactly right.
REPORTS: MAYOR/CITY COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER
Ewing-Holmstrom said early Sunday morning at 3:00 a.m. she attended two of the welcome
home ceremonies that Fort Sill has been conducting to bring home our soldiers from Iraq. She
said would like to invite every citizen. She didn't know anybody there, but talk about a great
event, it really makes you feel very very proud. She said it was the crack of dawn, that hanger
was full of 200-300 people welcoming home our soldiers and it was a great thing to do. She said
KLAW is one of the only radio stations in town, KLAW and Z94, that actually broadcast live
from those events. She said you should tune into those stations to hear when these ceremonies
are and because we are so grateful that Fort Sill is here, remember, we would be another small
town if it wasn't. She encouraged everyone to attend those.
Bass said he came home and the alarm on the house across the street was going off. He
dialed
911 and told them the alarm was going off, saying burglar, burglar, burglar, and he went over and
tried knocking on the door and couldn't get in. He said after 30 minutes the alarm was still going
off so he called 911 again and asked what was going on with his house, the alarm is still going
off. They told Bass they couldn't find anybody to answer or unlock the door. Bass asked
if
everything was ok inside and was told they guessed so. He said that was the answer he received.
This was about 5:30 Sunday afternoon and the alarm just kept going off and finally the people
came home and turned their alarm off, but how did you know the people were ok inside? He said
he knocked on the door and nobody answered, so how did dispatch know everything was ok?
Wells said he will look that up and get an answer for Bass. He said they should
have dispatched
a police office on it, the alarm company may have called it in before you did and were trying to
find a key holder, but he will check on it.
Mitchell said we finally received our $40,000 from the State Department of Commerce
for Phase
I of our Military Reassessment Program. Senate Bill 1258, dealing with rural water, got out of
the House Judiciary Committee and will be heard on the House Floor on April 8
th and that is a
very important bill for us.
Vincent said actually this bill has some teeth in it. The Oklahoma Supreme Court
said rural
water districts don't have the authority to enter into exclusive service agreements in their area.
He said it would be great if this bill passed.
Mitchell said by the end of the week we are going to have our CIP Survey, the 34 projects
up on
our website so people in our community can go into our website and express their interest on our
list of projects, so hopefully we'll get some response from that.
The Mayor and Council convened in executive session at approximately 8:10 p.m. and
reconvened in regular, open session at approximately 8:50 p.m. with roll call reflecting all
members present.
EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS:
23. Pursuant to Section 307B.4 Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes, consider
convening in executive
session to discuss the pending claim against Howard and Sharon Smith on the property located at
1403 and 1405 NW Dearborn, and if necessary, take appropriate action in open session.
Vincent read the title of Item 23 as shown above. He said Council convened in
executive session
and after discussion staff recommends a motion to formally reject the offer of settlement and
authorize the City Attorney's Office to continue negotiations.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Warren, to reject the settlement offer and authorize the City
Attorney's Office to continue negotiations in the pending claim against Howard and Sharon
Smith on the property located at 1403 and 1405 NW Dearborn. AYE: Shanklin, Patton,
Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom. NAY: None. MOTION
CARRIED.
24. Pursuant to Section 307B.4 Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes, consider
convening in executive
session to discuss the pending tort claim of Mark E. McFarland, Jr., DC-2003-112, against the
City of Lawton, and if necessary, take appropriate action in open session.
Vincent read the title of Item 24 as shown above. He said Council convened in
executive session
and after discussion staff requests a motion authorizing us to formerly reject the settlement but to
continue negotiations.
MOTION by Hanna, SECOND by Warren, to reject the settlement offer and authorize the City
Attorney's Office to continue negotiations in the pending tort claim of Mark E. McFarland, Jr.,
DC-2003-112. AYE: Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom,
Shanklin. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
25. Pursuant to Section 307B.2, Title 25, Oklahoma Statues, consider
convening in executive
session to discuss negotiations for a Collective Bargaining Agreement for FY 2004-2005
between the Police Union, IUPA, Local 24, and the City of Lawton, and, if necessary, take
appropriate action in open session.
Vincent read the title of Item 25 as shown above. He said Council convened in
executive session
and after discussion staff requests approving John Vincent as the City's Interest Arbitrator in the
tort claim of Mark E. McFarland, Jr., DC-2003-112. AYE: Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna,
Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
26. Pursuant to Section 307B.1, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss the evaluation review of Larry Mitchell, City Manager, and take action in open
session if necessary.
Powell read the title of Item 26 as shown above. He said Council convened in executive
session
and after discussion Mitchell handed out some forms for Council to fill out and this item will be
brought back in two weeks. No action is needed at this time.
There being no further business to consider, the meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m. upon
motion,
second and roll call vote.