Month 2003-12 December
Meeting of 2003-12-16 Regular Meeting
LAWTON CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 16, 2003
WAYNE GILLEY CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER
Mayor Cecil E. Powell, Also
Mitchell, City Manager
Vincent, City Attorney
Fanning, Acting City Clerk
Gregory K. Herring, Fort Sill Liaison
The meeting was called to order at 6:11 p.m. by Mayor Powell. Notice of meeting
were posted on the City Hall notice board as required by law.
Bass, Ward One
Hanna, Ward Two
Devine, Ward Three
Ewing-Holmstrom, Ward Four
Robert Shanklin, Ward Five
Jeffrey Patton, Ward Six
Stanley Haywood, Ward Seven
Randy Warren, Ward Eight
AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION: None
CONSENT AGENDA : Separate consideration was requested for Items #1, 3, & 7.
MOTION by Bass, SECOND by Haywood, to approve the consent agenda with the exception of
items #1, 3, and 7. AYE: Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood,
Warren, Bass. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
1. Consider the following damage claims recommended for denial: Homer J. Sappington,
Romanita Vera, Lonnie Rone, and Southwestern Bell.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she would like to pull the damage claim for Sappington for approval
deny the others.
MOTION by Ewing-Holmstrom, SECOND by Devine, to adopt Res. No. 03-203 approving the
damage claim for Homer J. Sappington in the amount of $405.87 and deny the damage claims of
Romanita Vera, Lonnie Rone, and Southwestern Bell. AYE: Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom,
Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
2. Consider the following damage claim recommended for approval
and consider passage of the
resolution authorizing the City Attorney to file a friendly suit for this claim which is over
$400.00: Southwestern Bell Telephone Company. Action: Adopted Res. No. 03-
3. Consider accepting a Wellness and Fitness Fire Act Grant awarded
the City of Lawton Fire
Department on September 11, 2003.
MOTION by Hanna, SECOND by Haywood, to table item #3, accepting a Wellness and Fitness
Fire Act Grant awarded the City of Lawton Fire Department on September 11, 2003. AYE:
Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine. NAY: None.
4. Consider awarding contract for Fire Safety Education Trailer
5. Consider approving the replat for Lot 2, Block 1, Summerwood
Square Addition, Part 3.
6. Consider accepting a Warranty Deed for Lots 1, 2, and 3 of
Block 35 of Woods Addition
from Hazel Huffman in exchange for payment of the 2003 property taxes, and authorize the
Mayor and City Clerk to execute the Warranty Deed. Action: approved.
7. Consider awarding a construction contract to Bruton Construction
Co., Inc. for the NW 34
Street/Drainage Project #2001-23.
Powell said he pulled this for Ihler to give an overview to let the people know this
is your Capital
Improvements Program working at its best.
Ihler said we are asking to award the construction contract to Bruton Construction Company
the NW 34
th Street/Drainage Project. As part of the 2000 CIP, one of our major areas of
concerns for drainage was the area around 34th Street and Cache Road. He said that
is a collector
road people traverse to get to Comanche County Memorial Hospital and even on the smallest of
frequency storms, we would not be able to get through that area on some occasions. As part of
the 2000 CIP, the citizens voted and approved for 3.5 million dollars to be appropriated for the
project. He said the project starts at 34th and Cache Road, starting out as an 8 x
2, goes to an 8 x
4, then 8 x 6 box from Cache Road, south, then east behind Tomlinson Jr. High on the south side
and ties into the main branch of Squaw Creek at Squaw Creek and Ferris Avenue. Five bids
were received on this project and staff is recommending awarding the project to Bruton
Construction for $2,671,881.
MOTION by Devine, SECOND by Patton, to award the construction contract to Bruton
Construction Co., Inc. for the NW 34th Street/Drainage Project #2001-23. AYE:
Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom. NAY: None. MOTION
Powell said he had been asked by the City Attorney to notify Council to strike items
#21 and 24.
8. Consider denying requests for the installation of traffic
control devices on NW Quanah
Parker Trailway at Crosby Park Blvd., NW 17
th and Elm, NW Waterford at Ferris and at
Homestead. Action: approved.
9. Consider approving a Resolution authorizing the installation
or removal of traffic control
devices at 1621 SE Walnut Creek Road, NW Wolf Creek Blvd. at 47
th, NW Hunter just north of
Cache Road, 303 SW J Avenue, SW H Avenue at 5th Street, SE Pebble
Creek at Walnut
Creek, SE 1st at H Avenue, SW D Avenue from Sheridan to 20th,
SW 12th just north of Lee
Blvd., 1600 block of SW Garfield, SW 16th and Garfield. Action: Adopted Traffic
No. 03-04 approving above item.
10. Consider approving the 2004 Notice of Meeting schedule for
Lawton City Council
meetings and approve a Resolution setting December 7, 2004 as a Special Regular Meeting for
the month of December and canceling the Regular Meeting of December 28, 2004. Action:
Adopted Res. No. 03-
205 approving above item.
11. Consider approving the following contract extension: Credit
Card Acceptance Program
(RFP CL02-029) with Bank of Oklahoma - Municipal Court. Action: approved
12. Consider awarding contract for Refuse Collection Bodies (CL04-030)
to J and R
Equipment Company of Oklahoma City. Action: approved
13. Consider approval of appointments to boards, commissions
and trusts. Action: approved.
14. Consider approval of the minutes of November 25, 2003. Action: approved.
15. Consider approval of payroll for the period of December 8,
2003 to December 21, 2003.
16. Hold a public hearing and consider an ordinance closing a
five-foot utility easement, more
particularly described as the North five-feet (5') of the West one hundred and ten feet (110') of
Lot 13, Block 6, Heritage Hills Addition, Part Two.
Deborah Jones said is an item to hold a public hearing in considering an ordinance closing
a five-foot utility easement in Heritage Hills Addition, Part Two and the initiator is Mr. Cox who
desires to replat Lots 11 - 22 and enlarge them in size. He desires to relocate the utilities
currently in this five-foot easement and create a new five-foot easement and have the electrical
facility moved to it. Jones said notice of this proposed closure has been served both to property
owners within 300 feet, as well as all utility companies. She said AEP has consented to the
relocation of the facility they currently have in the easement, provided Mr. Cox pays all costs and
he is aware of this.
Public Hearing was opened and closed at this time with no participants.
Vincent read the ordinance title prior to vote.
MOTION by Ewing-Holmstrom, SECOND by Patton, to approve Ord. No. 03-56 closing a five-foot
utility easement, more particularly described as the North five-feet (5') of the West one
hundred and ten feet (110') of Lot 13, Block 6, Heritage Hills Addition, Part Two. AYE: Patton,
Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin. NAY: None. MOTION
Ordinance No. 03-56
An ordinance closing a Utility Easement described as the North Five-Feet (5') of the
Hundred and Ten Feet (110') of Lot 13, Block 6, Heritage Hills Addition, Part Two, addressed as
1600 NE 35
17. Hold a public hearing and consider a resolution amending
the 2025 Land Use Plan from
Residential/High Density to Commercial and an ordinance changing the zoning from R-3
(Multiple-Family Dwelling District) and R-4 (High Density Apartment District) zoning
classification located in the 100 and 200 blocks between Gore Boulevard and Ferris Avenue.
Bigham said this is a resolution considering an amendment to the Land Use Plan and an
ordinance considering a change in zoning from R-3 and R-4 to C-5, General Commercial. He said
this action was initiated by the City Council in the spring of 2003 and we went through the public
hearing process, even though it was initiated by the City. He said this area is on 2
essentially it fills in C-5 Commercial Zoning between 2nd and 3rd Streets. Gore
Boulevard is on
the south, 2nd Street is zoned C-5 Commercial now. There is a total of 57 platted lots
this area. The Planning Commission, on November 13th held a public hearing on this
persons speaking in favor of this request and 3 persons appeared to speak against this request.
The Planning Commission, by a 5-3 vote, recommended approval of this request to the City
Council. Notice of public hearing was mailed to 90 property owners within the 300 foot
notification area and 40 property owners within the requested area, as well as advertisement in
the Lawton Constitution.
Public Hearing was opened at this time.
Steven Johnson, 7 NW Fort Sill Boulevard, President of the Old Town North Neighborhood
Association, said North Addition was platted in 1908 and includes the area bounded by Railroad
and Fort Sill Blvd., Gore and Ferris Ave. He said the proposal before Council to rezone this area
of North Addition is very important to the residents of Old Town North. Johnson said he was
here representing the association asking Council to disapprove this rezoning proposal. He
pointed out four reasons why not to favorably consider it; 1) because of the unprecedented
nature of this proposal, in that it emanated from City Council itself and constitutes the first time
this has ever occurred, at least to the Planning Department; 2) it constitutes a giant step
backwards in terms of the usual rezoning requests, in that rezoning from R-3 and R-4 Residential
to the least restrictive, virtually unrestrictive, zoning of C-5, is rather unprecedented; 3) it
encompasses a rather large area of 8 full city blocks and potentially effects many residents. He
said during the public hearing several weeks ago, before the Planning Commission, the
Chairperson, Ms. Pat Henry, expressed concern about this zoning request emanating from the
City Council and about the need to rezone to the least restrictive of the Commercial Zoning, C-5.
Her negative vote on this issue reflects her concern for the welfare of the residents of North
Addition. Johnson said Council should not favorably consider this proposal to rezone because
commercial encroachment into a long-established neighborhood, will likely create a domino
effect. If this rezoning proposal is approved, how long does Council believe it will be before
see continued deterioration of the remaining residential properties adjacent to the newly zoned
commercial lots and continued, in fact, speeded, residential migration, from the affected area.
He said Columbia Square, for example, will become a far less desirable place to live and bring
up children. He said adoption of this rezoning proposal will ultimately pave the way for further
commercialization in a westerly direction. He said the critical need in the city is more multi-family
and high density apartment dwellings, not more expanded business in residential
neighborhoods. Council should not favorably consider this proposal because the east and west
sides of 2
nd Street have been zoned C-5 for many years. He asked what Council found attractive
about what exists there now; taverns, automobile repair shops and used car lots, which are the
bulk of the business enterprises currently on 2nd Street. He asked how rezoning the
east side of
3rd Street would enhance the character of this neighborhood. He said since it is not
arterial street, all we are likely to have is metal covered storage buildings or less desirable open
storage areas for the overflow from 2nd Street. Johnson said if there is little incentive
owners of residential properties on 3rd Street now to maintain their property, this rezoning
only perturb the situation; 4) Council should not consider this rezoning proposal because
it is in
contravention of the 2025 Land Use Plan, ratified by this Council, scarcely two years ago. He
asked the Council to consider the ethnicity of departing from a plan that is only three years into
its 25 year life span. He said they are asking Council to place good, public, local welfare above
self interest. Johnson said a C-5 zoning is the least restrictive of commercial zoning provisions
in the City Code and would permit very undesirable business applications close to schools,
churches and residential dwellings and undoubtedly, lead to an increase of crime in the area.
This neighborhood needs upgrading, but C-5 and added commercial encroachment, is not the
way to accomplish that goal.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked Johnson, as president of the neighborhood association, was there
zoning you would prefer, as to not rezoning it at all? Was there a second choice?
Johnson said no, actually, the members of the association would prefer to leave it R-4,
as it is
Hank Myers said he has resided at 407 N 3
rd for 45 years and owns property at 214 and 216
Euclid, He said the area considered for change, which he hopes Council does, is nothing but a
blighted area and most of the residents down there now are all boarded up. There is a past history
of prostitution, drugs, crack houses, meth houses, so anything at all would be an improvement
over the area they have right now. He said he understands why Devine and Shanklin will abstain
on the vote, they do have property in that area and he appreciates Devine bringing this to the
Council, it's something that should have been done a long time ago. Myers said the area is
getting more deteriorated every year and the people in the Old Town North Association doesn't
live down there. He said they never accepted them as being a part of their part of town and they
have a one block buffer zone which is the 300 block, between 3rd and 4th Street,
which will still
be between them and the C-5 zoned area, so we really are not encroaching on Old Town North,
we're just trying to make something better for the citizens of Lawton. The businesses are all
moving west, south and in every direction and we need to do something and do it quick for the
Old Town North area.
Less McKenzie said he owns property down there also, at Columbia and 3
rd and 3rd and
Dearborn. He said he has some vacant lots and has tried to rezone them to C-5 for years and we
can't rezone unless we rezone everything up to them. He has a business he would love to put in
Lawton, but has to put it out of town because he has no other land than that. McKenzie said he
pays $80 per year on taxes and would love to pay more to have it in town, if we could get that
rezoned to C-5. He said they are not asking to tear all the houses down, there is a bunch of
boarded up houses down there. Commercial would be good for that area. He said everyone says
they want to bring traffic to Lawton. When they come down 2nd Street they want to see
things, they want to see businesses. If there wasn't an automotive shop down there, these people
would be walking, we've got to put them somewhere. The plumbing shops have to go
somewhere and that's as good as anywhere; it's not out of the way, it's where everybody can get
to it, its by the mall and we get a lot of traffic there and would like to see it turned to C-5, it
would help Lawton's economy a lot.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked McKenzie what type of business he has.
McKenzie said construction.
Jane Shaw, 1001 NW Bell, said the house she lives in was built by her grandfather around
She said she has come down to Council meetings numerous times and if someone isn't trying to
encroach on the neighborhood from Ft. Sill Blvd., they're going to come from the other direction.
She remembers 20-30 years ago, people were saying we need to protect our town, make our
town pretty. She said things need zoned so businesses are in one area and residential in another.
She said upgrading it to a construction company, or moving in three more plumbing supply
companies, or whatever, is not going to help the neighborhood. She said Devine doesn't want to
pay $300 every time he comes before Council. She said Council passed a Historical Ordinance
and now we are going to take several square blocks and make it the worst zoning possible. She
would like for Council to not vote in favor of this.
Brent Down, 701 NW Arlington, said anyone living in this area has to have noticed over
two years, that it is getting better. It does take time and he thinks it's very sad there is not
a lot of
history left in the town and if Council does this, they are destroying one of the most important
historical things in this town and he cannot believe this is happening. Down said you have to
start somewhere and we went before Council to get protection for historical areas. He lives in
Old Town North and it's sad that people are not seeing what we have and before it's over with, it's
going to be gone. He hopes Council votes against this.
Jim Williams said his family owns some property on 2
nd Street and west on Columbia and most
of those are tenant-occupied, with very few of those dwellings owner-occupied. If you took a
poll of the people who actually own that property, they'd be in favor of this resolution. Williams
said he sat in a meeting with Bigham a couple years ago where the State wants to go through 2nd
Street and do some improvement and you want the landowners around the corners, to contribute
to that. If you expect us to do that, then you need to let us do what we want to with our land
change it to this new classification.
Hanna said he would like to hear from the Council member or members who's ward this
is in and
also who have businesses down there; what they want done to that area and why.
Public Hearing was closed at this time.
Devine said he was sure everyone was pointing at him to address this item and make it
simple. This all started when he needed one lot rezoned and came into the city to have it done
and it was going to cost him $600 to have it done. He said the reason Bigham said he didn't want
to rezone the whole thing is because it would cost the city $300 to do the zoning of all the lots.
Devine said with that, he volunteered to pay the $300 because that's $300 cheaper than what it
would be to him if he did one lot. He said Mullins has taken a corner and literally turned it
show place for this city and if he hadn't of had the zoning to do that, he wouldn't have been able
to spend the money to make that corner. Devine said yes, it's a car lot, but he took an old ragged
out laundry mat and a gay bar and turned them both into a real beautiful car lot. Mr. McKenzie
would like to put his business in here and Devine's concern is when we go to tear property down
or don't want to do anything, every time you take down a structure, you cut the tax income off
that property, because they tax you for everything that's on the property. He said if we tear
all those old raggedy buildings, it cuts down the tax income considerably. He said they have had
major problems with prostitution and illegal drugs and would love to see it changed; we know
the people who owns property down there is going to increase the value of it and increase the tax
base because they are going to put something in there that will be desirable. He said another
gentleman did a lot of work and has made a great improvement, took an old ice dock, a terrible
eye sore, spent thousands of dollars improving this on the corner of 2
nd and Dearborn, made that
a beautiful place. He has another lot in there that's residential, right in the middle of all
commercial, he can't expand, he can't do anything to make the property any better because he's
not going to build a house on a 25 foot lot, it's not good for anything else and that's what a lot of
these little lots are; some are 50 foot, some 75, some 25. Devine said he has always been against
strip zoning and that's what's happened here. They have stripped zoned this and it's created the
problem and now we're trying to correct that problem. At the beginning, it should never have
been made anything other than all residential or all commercial, now it's all in there mingled and
nobody can do anything with it. Nobody is going to go down there and build a $40,000 to
$50,000 home right in the middle of that mess. He said Council really needs to consider
because this would be a good improvement to our city and is not degrading anything at all. He
told the CPC he would abstain from voting on this and he will, he said he will not vote on this
Warren said he hopes, in the future, it will become the norm, rather than something
unprecedented. He said when we go into a major arterial block area, we need to do it all at one
time and be done with it. It gives direction for people looking to buy property and that's part
moving forward and helps push it along. He said we can't leave those lots; the facing lots on
Street are going to be commercial and we can't leave those lots in the back to just deteriorate and
become an alleyway; we need to rezone it all. If a company wants to come in and use an entire
block, it's available to them, it's already zoned and ready to go. If those rent houses want to
there, they can remain, there's nothing saying they have to move.
Patton asked about the few residents who actually live there, own the land, what kind
would this be on their property taxes?
Bigham said that's not really a City issue, that's the responsibility of the County
said they look at the type of activity on the property before determining the valuation of the
property, to determine the tax rate. He said he didn't feel qualified to answer that question.
Ewing-Holmstrom said unprecedented was a good way to describe this. She said we
long list of businesses in town brought up for D & D and none of them are in this area. If
businesses or homes are so dilapidated, why aren't they coming before Council on the D & D list.
She said the second problem she has is this Council just voted for a Historical Preservation for
this same area to give these people an opportunity to protect their neighborhood. She said she
not for this and urged Council to vote against it.
Devine said we didn't vote to make Old Town North anything yet, we just put the tool
the people in that area wants to make their area historical, they can do that. We only passed
ordinance giving them the tool to do that. We just endorsed the ordinance, not Old Town North.
Bass said he spoke with Mr. Johnson today before coming here and knows they don't want
encroach anymore on Old Town North, but, something has to be done with this block. If they're
saying this block looks great, then he doesn't think they are being honest with Council. If you
drive down there at 2:00 a.m., it comes alive. He said something needs to be done with this area
and he doesn't think you can go any further west with the commercial zoning than it already is. If
commercial zoning will help this area, he's for it. He urged Council to drive by and look at it,
because he thinks it's a real problem area; half the block is already commercial, you're only going
to loose half the other side, and it makes your property worth more, if it's commercial.
Shanklin said he and Bass were out looking at Zone 1 about a year ago, seeing what was
and Bell and this afternoon, drove down 3rd and realized how many houses are boarded up on
Street, Bell and back to Ferris. He said the property he has in this area will soon be sold and
can see it both ways. We are trying really hard to get something going so people will want to
come back to the central part of town, Old Town North. He said we've put C-5 from Railroad to
11th Street, parking off street from Gore to F Ave., they don't have to have an on-site parking.
We fought a four-plex on Ferris, Old Town North, and ended up with two duplexes; plain
duplexes and we were told they were going to build a $400,000 unit. He said we fought Braum's
at 11th and Ferris; what it would be if we had the nice brand new Braum's. He said
his point is,
after looking at those, he has nothing to gain; it's a hard decision to make and he is not
necessarily against or for it. We have to do something to get central quarter to entice people
come back in. He said if you think anyone is going to build a house at 11th and Ferris,
from Lawton High, it's never going to happen. Shanklin said he owns nine properties in Old
Town North and this will not ruin him, so he can't vote.
Vincent read the ordinance title prior to the vote.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Bass, to approve Res. No. 03-197 and Ord. No. 03-57
amending the 2025 Land Use Plan from Residential/High Density to Commercial and an
ordinance changing the zoning from R-3 (Multiple-Family Dwelling District) and R-4 (High
Density Apartment District) zoning classification located in the 100 and 200 blocks between
Gore Boulevard and Ferris Avenue. AYE: Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Patton. NAY:
Ewing-Holmstrom. ABSTAIN: Devine, Shanklin. MOTION CARRIED.
Ordinance No. 03-57
An Ordinance changing the zoning classification from the existing classification of
(Multiple-Family Dwelling District) and R-4 (High Density Apartment District) to C-5 (General
Commercial District) zoning classification on the tract of land which is hereinafter more
particularly described in Sections One (1) and Two (2) hereof; authorizing changes to be made
upon the Official Zoning Map in accordance with this Ordinance.
AT THIS TIME COUNCIL WENT OUT OF ORDER TO ITEM #s 22, 23 and 25.
18. Hold public hearings and adopt resolutions declaring the
structures at 804 West Gore Blvd.
and 806 West Gore Blvd. to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting influence on
the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City Attorney to
initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood Services to
solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
Angie Alltizer said the two structures are residential and have recently been acquired
by a new
property owner wishing to demolish all four structures on this property and take advantage of
half off at the landfill.
Public hearing opened and closed at this time with no participants.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Hanna, to approve Res. Nos. 03-198 and 199 declaring
structures at 804 West Gore Blvd. and 806 West Gore Blvd. to be dilapidated and dangerous,
thus causing a blighting influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and
safety. Authorize the City Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District
Court and Neighborhood Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
AYE: Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin. NAY:
None. MOTION CARRIED.
19. Hold public hearings and adopt resolutions declaring the
commercial structures at 1711 SW
Sheridan Road; 11
th & Grand Avenue; 1232 NW Cache Road; 1311 NW Cache Road; 2550-2554
Fort Sill Blvd.; 1202 West Gore Blvd.; 1304 West Gore Blvd.; 1306 West Gore Blvd.; 515 SW G
Avenue to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting influence on the community
and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City Attorney to initiate legal
action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood Services to solicit bids to
raze and remove structures, if appropriate.
1711 SW Sheridan Road
Alltizer said this is a continuation of public hearings on commercial properties. This
was on the initial commercial property list we have been discussing since August. She told
Council the commercial property list is not an all-inclusive list, they can add commercial
properties as they come to their attention. She said this was just their initial list and initial
undertaking in addressing some of the commercial properties throughout the
community on main arterials. She said this first structure is a single commercial structure, the
property owner is planning on tearing it down and has applied for a demolition permit today and
would like reduced tipping fees.
Public hearing was opened and closed at this time with no participants.
MOTION by Haywood, SECOND by Hanna, to adopt Res. No. 03-200 declaring the commercial
structures at 1711 SW Sheridan Road to be dilapidated and dangerous, thus causing a blighting
influence on the community and detrimental to the public's health and safety. Authorize the City
Attorney to initiate legal action declaring a public nuisance in District Court and Neighborhood
Services to solicit bids to raze and remove structures, if appropriate. AYE: Haywood, Bass,
Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton. NAY: Warren. MOTION CARRIED.
11th and Grand Avenue
Attlizer said this commercial storage area is located on the northeast corner or 11
th and Grand
Ave., right accross from the Lawton Regional Airport. She said there is one large structure and
storage area there. She said there are numerous semi tractor-trailers on site, several opened
unsecured and this property was put on the list because it's one the Mayor's Cleanup Task Force
had identified as unsightly and on one of our main arterials across from the airport.
Public hearing opened at this time.
Steve Mansell said it was his understanding this is the first time this particular property
before Council. His client has been in the process of moving the trailers and trying to do
whatever he thinks he can do to make the property have more curb appeal. Mansell said to their
knowledge, they have not been told exactly what they are suppose to do with this property. The
building is sound and doesn't pose a fire hazard or risk of crime. He said the trees do not look
good and can be removed. If Council has a problem with the trailers, they can be rolled off. He
asked Council that if provided the opportunity to have a list of things needed done, they would
do those. He said his client discussed this with Councilman Haywood three or four months ago
and as far as they knew, they were addressing any concerns. When they are summoned to appear
and told that their property is going to be torn down because of dilapidation, it would only be fair
for them to be advised exactly what the problems are so they could address those and wouldn't
have to come before Council. If there is something that can be done to fix the problem, that is
what they want to do.
Ewing-Holmstrom said they could make it leaseable. As a citizen of Lawton who
airport for visitors coming into Lawton, this isn't something she wants to see, but it wouldn't
matter if it was by the airport or not. She said looking at this property and the other properties,
you don't see what's wrong with this property, we're not going to get anywhere tonight. She
asked if there was a For Lease sign anywhere on the property. It doesn't even look leaseable in
it's current condition. It's an empty building that's abandoned.
Mansell said it's not empty or abandoned, it's secured.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked what was in the building.
Mansell said it's a storage facility. He said beauty is in the eye of the beholder;
you can come in
and say that looks bad. If it looks bad to you, is that reason to bring a bulldozer in and tear
the building? If we're given a list to say specifically what you want done, it will be done. When
we come down here, we don't know what is expected.
Hanna asked if Mansell had received a list of what was wrong with the property and what
to correct the problems? He asked Bigham if they had been given a list of what the inspectors
found and what is needed to correct these problems and bring them up to Code, to get them off
the D & D list. Hanna said this is the second time Mansell has been down here saying the same
Alltizer said it was Council's direction, at a previous meeting, we bring these structures
hearings for condemnation and at that time, Neighborhood Services had stated we were in
contact with all the property owners and working with them. She said she has met with Mansell
at several of his properties, as well as Manny Cruiz and Mansell has been working on the things
identified to him at that time. She said Council's direction was to bring those structures for
Hanna asked again if any direction had been given Mansell, so these properties don't
coming back to Council. If they don't meet the requirements later on, he suggests after a
substantial amount of time, bring them back and give them D& D, but right now it sounds like
they have no direction on which way to go, other than word of mouth, and that can change from
minute to minute, day to day.
Alltizer said one of the problems they run into, from staff's position, if we go in
everything needing to be done, that sets us up for missing something. We did provide an
inspection check list to each property owner regarding the Property Maintenance Code
violations. She said it is fairly simple and straight forward and you can do a self-inspection
your property and that is what we had hoped would happen; that owners would take the
initiative, look at their own property and see what needs done. Several property owners on the
initial list have done that, but we have met with individual property owners and pointed out
certain things. Alltizer said she felt the direction from Council had changed by asking for these
structures to be brought for condemnation hearings, so that is why we changed directions and the
strategy has shifted.
Hanna said Mansell just stood there and said he has no idea of what is wrong with the
Alltizer said they would be happy to go and do an internal inspection, we have not gone
this specific property.
Bass asked if this structure is declared dilapidated, are they then given instructions?
Alltizer said according to the ordinance, they have the fifteen day time period to come
in and get
a permit and we will meet with them and do an inspection. She said they have done that on some
of the ones previously brought to Council. She said that is certainly an option, they have just
made any arrangements to inspect the interior of this property with the owner.
Devine said we are complaining about "in the eye of the beholder," and the
first thing that comes
out of Alltizer's statement is, internal inspection. It doesn't matter what the inside of the
looks like if we are trying to clean up the outside. There is always somebody wanting to get
inside somebody else's property to look at what's in there. That does not concern them, if we
trying to clean up the outside. He said we went through this the last time and are going to go
through it every time; we never make a list, but we can be the most aggressive people to tell you
your property looks terrible, but nobody wants to tell you what to do to do it. What looks bad
one person, may not look bad to someone else and this is the bad part. Devine said he wishes he
hadn't voted to give the extra money needed to give staff to work with on this. He said that was
major mistake on his part. We've got the tools to do what you're trying to do on our City Codes
right now, because if Mansell was given a list of what to do on his property and didn't correct
that, we can then file Maintaining a Nuisance on him. But he has to be given guidelines on
what's expected of him.
Haywood said he feels the problem is the trailers and if they were gone, he doesn't
building is the problem, it's the trailers and trees needing cut; if that was done, he didn't think
there would be a problem.
Shanklin said also the debris and he doesn't see anything wrong with the building. He
Mansell came down here a year ago and acted like he did not receive a letter and brought his
attorney in just to ask what we wanted done. He said Mansell had the letter and has been told
what was needed.
Warren said the list we keep talking about sent with these letters. He said there's
not 5% of the
buildings in Lawton, Oklahoma that would pass everything on that list. There are things on that
list such as your building is not allowed to allow rodents in. You can't use that as a list of
they have to do. He said he would be happy if we would just give these people a list, commercial
and residential, saying this is what you have to do and not come back in two weeks saying
Council is putting the pressure on. That's the position we have put Alltizer in and that hasn't
been fair to her. It is not her fault, we are the ones who did that. If we could just give
property owner some direction.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she didn't care how many letters were sent, anybody looking at
property can tell there's debris and it needs cleaned up. It's against City Code to have a bunch
junk around your building. She asked when the last time there was water service or any type of
utility on in this building?
Alltizer said she did not find a record of that.
Ewing-Holmstrom said we have actually done D & D on houses that have been vacant
water service that have looked better than this. She said it doesn't take a genius to figure out
property needs to be cleaned up and whatever's inside, great, but there is debris all over it and she
told Mansell not to pretend like he doesn't see the junk.
Powell said he tends to agree with what he's heard on the Council floor this evening. He doubts
his task force would never had put this on the list if those things seen in the picture; the sign
leaning against the building, trimming of trees needed, and all that debris laying around hauled
off and cleaned up, he told Mansell he probably wouldn't have been down here tonight on this
piece of property.
Further discussion back and forth between Council and Mansell was held, with nothing
Patton asked if this could be tabled for a few months to allow Mansell time to get this
up. He said it's a few days before Christmas, he has several properties and he is here obviously
wanting to make an effort to do exactly what we would like him to do and he feels we should
give him some time.
Powell asked Patton if he was suggesting tabling this item or this particular property.
Patton said this particular one or how many other properties he has here today.
Hanna said he has at least two or three more coming up.
Patton said he would table all of them then until we can give him some direction and
time to do it.
Bass said if we put this on D & D, it doesn't come in front of Council anymore and
we don't have
to mess with it any longer. It gives Mansell fifteen days to get a permit and gives him 90 days
get it cleaned up. We don't have to keep seeing the same people over and over again on the same
Mansell said he sees what Bass is saying but asked if Bass could see the stigma on him
his properties declared dilapidated when they don't feel they are.
Bass said they won't be dilapidated if you get it done in 105 days.
Mansell said if the only reason we are down here is because the trees need cut and the
need moving, why should they be put to the burden of going to litigation on the dilapidation and
be tagged and targeted with a dilapidated structure.
Bass said you wouldn't if you'd get your permit and get it cleaned up.
Mansell said he disagreed, to them it is a huge inconvenience and expense to have a
property declared dilapidated.
Shanklin said if Mansell has not been told what needs done, that needs to be done and
properties on here; if we haven't specifically said what we want done. He needs to know exactly
what he needs to do and doesn't need to bring an attorney down here, to ask us what we want
done. If it isn't done in the appropriate, specified time, we have other means.
Powell said Alltizer was given direction by this Council, very explicitly, to bring
had been identified, the people notified, and they hadn't corrected the problem before Council.
He said never, to his knowledge, has Alltizer been given specific things to tell the property
owners what is expected of them. We need to eliminate the confusion on this, go back, identify
these properties and identify exactly what we want done.
Hanna said on 1311 NW Cache Road, formerly Nite Tracks, he went to Mansell, talked to
about this and he did what was asked of him. He said looking at this, nothing has changed on it
and didn't know why it was brought back again.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked if they had received any notification on 11
th and Grand ever? How long
have we been dealing with this property in the condition it's in.
Alltizer said she could only speak for the last three and a half years she has been
the City. Most communication regarding this property has been verbal with Mansell, he might
have got a tall grass and weed Administrative Order, but in his defense, he has been working on
the properties brought to his attention. He has cleaned up behind the structures on Gore, but
Council changed the direction given at that time, to bring them before you. She felt some
progress was being made on these structures.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked about the guidelines Alltizer gave out at the last Council meeting. Do
those apply just to residential or they for residential and commercial?
Alltizer said they are for both residential and commercial; that's what is defined in
Maintenance Code. She said what she gave Council was actually the State Statute, which we
have incorporated into our City Code, so it reflects the same thing.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she was trying to point out there are clear and set rules and as
or residential owner, they should know the Code, especially as a business owner.
Shanklin said he believes the problem is Mansell is going to want to do all this work
not going to hire anyone. If we are not going to force him to hire someone, somebody will be
sitting here ten years from now on the same thing. He asked Mansell if that wasn't right?
Mansell said of course it's not.
Shanklin said his point is, he would like to help Mansell, but he can't help him if
he is going to
do these all by himself. He said Mansell works hard, but, he can't do it all by himself.
MOTION by Patton, SECOND by Haywood, to table all remaining properties on the agenda; 11th
& Grand Ave.; 1232 NW Cache Road; 1311 NW Cache Road; 2550-2554 Fort Sill Blvd.; 1202
West Gore Blvd.; 1304 West Gore Blvd.; 1306 West Gore Blvd.; 515 SW G Avenue and give
direction to Alltizer to make a list of specific things to be done. AYE: Warren, Hanna,
Patton, Haywood. NAY: Bass, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin. MOTION CARRIED
20. Consider approving a resolution authorizing and calling for
an election in the City of
Lawton, State of Oklahoma, for the purpose of setting the dates for the 2004 primary and general
municipal elections of the designated City Council seats, setting a ballot title; and authorizing the
Mayor to issue an election proclamation.
Powell said the word Mayor is missing on the agenda.
Vincent said this is an election for the seats of the City Council, which includes the
Mayor, Ward 1 and Ward 2. The date of the election is March 9, 2004, the run-off, if needed,
will be April 20, 2004 and the filing period will be February 10, 11, and 12, 2004, from 8:00 a.m.
to 5:00 p.m. and these will be for three year terms. This has to be filed with the County Election
Board by January 9, 2004.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Warren, to approve Resolution No. 03-201 authorizing and
calling for an election in the City of Lawton, State of Oklahoma, for the purpose of setting the
dates for the 2004 primary and general municipal elections of the designated City Council seats,
setting a ballot title; and authorizing the Mayor to issue an election proclamation. AYE: Hanna,
Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass. NAY: None. MOTION
21. Consider an amendment to Section 6-1-1-105 and Section 6-2-1-203
of Chapter 6, Lawton
City Code, 1995 which modifies the requirements for gravity backwater valves in the
International Residential Code and the International Plumbing Code, providing for severability
and declaring an emergency.
THIS ITEM WAS STRICKEN.
22. Consider amending Section 22-2-3-232, Article 22-2, Chapter
22, Lawton City Code, 1995,
limiting sales to outside commercial and industrial users.
Warren said he would like Council to consider this, he believes it has dual purposes;
encourage businesses to locate within the Lawton city limits. He said it's to our advantage we
this. We've provided industrial sites where that's available; and 2) it also gives us a little
control on what happens on the rim around the city limits of Lawton where we normally would
have no control.
Shanklin said he's not sure where it is.
Powell said it's anywhere. He said Warren is saying, we will not sell water to
the city limits unless they're a big, by the description of the City Code, volume water user.
Warren said that is correct.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she knows what Warren is trying to do with this and admires his
but, the City's broke, if we can make money on selling our water, we might as well, that's what
we've been doing all along and we're not going to stop, regardless of what size the business is.
Bass said to make them large water users, that's 10 million gallons, you would have
to be in the
industrial park to fit into this program. He doesn't see anything wrong with the small businesses,
if you can't get inside the city limits. Surely you've got to sell them water.
Haywood said he agrees with that, we have to give it to people on an individual basis.
Bass said according to what we have already, they have to bring things up to City Code,
to receive water on the outside.
Vincent said depending on which way the Council wants to go. He said if you look
2 under Section A, you are adding the word industrial, because right now, bringing up to Code
only applies to residential and commercial, so if the Council wants to require
residential/commercial and industrial to come up to Code, that would be a change we need to
make, in addition to or in lieu of Subsection A, which is the large volume, so you may want to do
part of this and not all of it. If you do that, we need to change a word in line 5 and a word
6, to add the word industrial. That would be an option versus the large volume customer.
Warren said he could live with that.
Nick Garrett said he is here on agenda item 23 which addresses the issue if this ordinance
it makes moot, item 23. He said Bruton Construction is trying to put a water meter in an area
that is not within the city limits of Lawton and he's not a large industry like Goodyear, etc. For
the people who want to do something small, such as Bruton Construction and the like, that's
going to bring business to Lawton, that ordinance is just too broad. He doesn't think it should
passed, it should be on an individual basis.
Warren said his concern is over the ability to control what would normally be a zoning
you have a housing addition on the boundary of the city limits, currently, a business industry, a
smelting plant, etc., could locate on the other side of that line and we would have no control over
that. He asked if that was not correct?
Vincent said other than if it's residential/commercial, they would have to meet the
for development, not zoning, but just the development part.
Warren said part of his attempt is to be able to control what happens on the fringe. If the County
had a zoning system where we could do some time zoning outside and we would have a little
control in that direction, as far as knowing what's going to happen and you know that's an
industrial park and so we're not going to locate a residential area accross the street in the future,
that's where he's trying to get.
Powell asked Warren if his issue could not be addressed on an individual basis; we would
to know what the business is.
Vincent said when we did Shilling Electric, we put this Code in and we were not concerned
industrial and Shilling Electric did develop to the Commercial Code with the parking lot and
built his building to the Commercial Code, with inspections. If we would merely add the word
industrial to our current outside water sales contract, we may accomplish the same thing Warren
is after. They would have to develop their industrial area to meet the City's Industrial
Devine said his same concerns are basically the same as Warren's. The only thing
concerned about is that is going to be right on the fringe of our city limits, plus it's right accross
the street of a new development, a residential area. This is in Park Ridge Addition. He
doesn't have a problem letting them tap onto the city main on a temporary basis, but to allow that
to become a permanent structure or permanent industrial business, in a residential area, he just
doesn't see how Council can support that. He said we already have a batch plant inside our city
limits that's on a temporary basis, right now, to do construction work and they have their final six
month permit, then they're going to have to move, because we don't want it in a residential area.
He said he can sympathize with him, he needs that plant there, because he's going to be doing
construction work and his trucks are going to be constantly running right accross the middle of
our town. Devine said for a temporary basis, but to be a permanent structure, he cannot support
Powell said to stick on item 22 about completely eliminating outside water sales as
asked for, with the exception of the big volume users. He asked Council if this is what they want
Bass asked how we did it for homes outside city limits?
Vincent said once we pass this particular revision to Section 22-232, residential/commercial
outside sales, had to be brought up to City Code, whether it was a subdivision or an individual
structure or a commercial establishment like Shilling Electric.
Bass asked what the difference is.
Vincent said this would add two things; it would add industrial, which it doesn't now
with Warren's suggestion, we added the large volume, so this would prohibit commercial or
industrial that are not large volume, you would still have residential. If you don't want to worry
about the large volume, then you can just add the word residential in paragraph 2 in the
appropriate places and we can still have a developmental code apply, by contract, with the buyer
of our water. They would either meet our developmental code or they wouldn't; their contract
would be terminated.
Devine said we could eliminate that by annexing that in out there.
Vincent said that is another possibility.
Warren asked if we could add, under A, where it says, sale of water to commercial and
users shall only be allowed if user meets the definition of large volume; could we add permanent.
Is there anyway for us to differentiate between permanent and temporary? That would allow
the ability to go in and give somebody a temporary permit.
Vincent said actually we could strike A and the Council could add temporary permit not
exceed a specified period of time.
Patton said it seems like we are really getting ourselves in a box here. He said
he agreed with
Warren and we should encourage businesses to locate within the city limits. His concern is this
is a little too restrictive.
Shanklin said he doesn't know how we can isolate ourselves by making everyone come to
a yearly contract now. He said every contract we have outside the city limits is on a yearly basis.
Vincent said no, some are duration contracts, some are forever.
Shanklin said individuals then are not, but associations are?
Vincent said some of our associations are yearly contracts, but, Pecan Valley, is not,
it's a forever
contract. Medicine Park is a yearly contract.
Shanklin said he doesn't know what we are trying to do in item #23. He asked if
we were trying
to eliminate #23?
Warren said no, his suggestion on #23 would be we give them a temporary pass. His
#22 is the zoning aspect; the neighborhood versus the smelting plant or the pig farm, etc. He
doesn't know what methods we have to prevent things that doesn't need to be accross the street
from a residential area. He asked how we can keep that from happening?
Powell said by dealing with them on an individual basis.
Warren said the point is, we can't prevent them from doing it. If they want to
put a smelting plant
in, they are going to and there is nothing we can do to stop them.
Powell asked Vincent is we could, in a situation such as this, deal with those individually
control what is going in there, to eliminate Warren's concern.
Vincent said yes we can, as long as we do it non-discriminatorily.
Shanklin said he thinks we should do this on an individual basis.
Vincent said staff's recommendation, at this time, would be to add industrial to paragraph
lines 1, 5, and 6 and change Subsection A, to allow Council, on a case by cases basis, to
authorize a temporary tap.
Powell asked if this means every outside water sale we have, from this day forward,
is going to
be a temporary tap?
Vincent said, no, in addition to the permanent taps, the temporary tap would not have
Vincent read the ordinance title prior to vote.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Haywood, to approve Ordinance No. 03-58 with the changes,
as stated by the City Attorney, amending Section 22-2-3-232, Article 22-2, Chapter 22, Lawton
City Code, 1995, limiting sales to outside commercial and industrial users. AYE: Warren,
Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Haywood. NAY: Patton. MOTION CARRIED.
Ordinance No. 03-58
An Ordinance pertaining to utilities amending Section 22-2-3-232, Article 22-2, Chapter
Lawton City Code, 1995, limiting sales to outside commercial or industrial users, providing for
severability and since the agenda item did not advertise it as an emergency, it would not be an
23. Consider an Agreement for the sale of treated water between
the City of Lawton, Oklahoma
and Bruton Construction Co., Inc.
Vincent said the application from Bruton Construction Company was received on November
2003, it was filed, at their request, at the earliest possible opportunity. He said it is staff's
understanding, this is for a permanent tap on Lots 3, 8, 24 and 30, Block 8, Wedgewood
Addition. It is approximately a quarter of a mile south of MacMahon Park and immediately
th Street east of the Parkridge Addition.
Shanklin said he wanted to know the other surrounding residential areas.
Powell said Kent Waller's is immediately to the southwest, Shilling to the west, Rolling
accross the street, west, and Parkridge is just northwest from it.
Bass said, in order for him to buy water, he has to abide by City Codes. So everything
has to be
Code perfect, by the City, in order to sell him water.
Vincent said based on the ordinance just passed, if Council authorizes a permanent tap,
have to meet the development standards for an industrial complex, on this property. His price
would be the current outside water sales price of $3.24 per thousand. The price is established
the Code Book, which is 1 and a half times the $2.16. The contract is on file in the Clerk's office
and we found a major mistake in it in the review and it will have to be rewritten and if Council
chooses to approve this, which is not a big problem, to go along with the Code.
MOTION by Haywood, SECOND by Ewing-Holmstrom, to approve the sale of treated water to
Bruton Construction Company, Inc.
Vincent asked Haywood if he agreed that the current contract on file in the Clerk's
to be rewritten to comply with new Code.
Haywood said yes he agreed to that.
Devine asked if this was granting him a permanent tap?
Vincent said that's the motion.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Shanklin, to table this until such time that
staff can provide an overhead of the surrounding area and to give the applicant the opportunity to
discuss and decide, if it is Council's direction it be temporary, what length of time they would
need it. AYE: Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Warren, Bass. NAY:
Haywood. MOTION CARRIED.
24. Consider amending Council Policy No. 6-3 regarding Damage
Claim Mitigation Payments
for sewer backup prevention.
THIS ITEM WAS STRICKEN.
25. Consider adopting an ordinance pertaining to personnel regulations
that amends Section 17-1-4-136, Chapter 17, Lawton City Code, 1995, providing for the reinstatement
of merit step
increases in the general employee pay plan, establish severability, and declaring an emergency
with an effective date.
Mitchell said in the preliminary budget submitted to Council on May 6, 2003, we noted
would need to take steps to slow the growth in wages and benefits for all employee groups. It
was also stated our goal would be to promote employee equity to groups. He said earlier this
year, we settled two unions contracts which now raises the question on how the City attempts to
address the general employee work force and what form of salary adjustment can be made to
provide this group of nearly 500 employees to a similar benefit. He said after adoption of the
budget this year, steps were frozen for all eligible general employees, resulting in an estimated
savings to the City of about $260,000. In addition, the adopted budget called for a single
furlough day that would generate an estimated savings of nearly $120,000. He said it should also
be noted that general employees were required to convert their sick leave benefit to a terminal
leave program and longevity would no longer be made available to new employees hired after
July 1, 2003. Mitchell said if you look at the accumulative effect of all the above described
salary adjustments, we estimate the cost to the City during the current budget year, would be
slightly above $600,000. The City's unaudited fund balance, presently, is estimated to be
$1,891,000, which reflects the 5% reserve for the general operating fund, which Council
indicated was their target or goal for our operating budget. He said it is staff's opinion the
equitable alternative for Council to consider would be to reinstate step increases for all eligible
general employees, on July 1, 2003. Implementing the step increases would cost the City about
$260,000. He said the possible second alternative would be to consider implementing the merit
step increase in January, rather than July, which reduces the salary expense by about $90,000.
Mitchell said regardless of when the salary adjustment is made, they believe it is appropriate
drop the proposed furlough day for all general employees, since the City was unable to win the
right in negotiations with firefighters. He said should Council agree to making the salary
adjustment, rather it be January 1
st or July 1st, staff suggests an implementation date of December
22, 2003, so those pay changes can go into effect immediately.
MOTION by Hanna
Ewing-Holmstrom said this is a little confusing; in one aspect you are asking to unfreeze,
makes sense, and then it says 1 1/2% for all general employees. She asked is this is asking to
unfreeze the Pay Plan as it was set up five years ago.
Mitchell said no, just award the steps, for those employees eligible, beginning July
Ewing-Holmstrom asked if this would change the Pay Plan set up five years ago.
Mitchell said it would not. It will not have any effect on that Pay Plan.
Shanklin said he did not understand how that could be and asked Tim Golden about a survey,
where we went 127%. He said 127% means in 10 years, all general employees would be equal to
any of the surrounding areas and asked Golden if he was familiar with this?
Golden said he was aware of this plan, he believes it was done in 1998 or 1999 and was
based upon the market at that time where an employee would begin in Step A which would be
80% of the market, and when they maxed out, they would be 120% of the market.
Shanklin said 120% of the market means where the market is 100%, they're 20% above that.
Golden said that is correct, as of 1999.
Shanklin said that was a 10 year plan. He said in that time frame we have given
Warren said what we're trying to do tonight is to undo what we did at budget this year.
there were steps due to employees, that we, in order to balance the budget, took away. We
weren't changing the Pay Plan, we were continuing the Pay Plan and a certain number of
employees deserved a step; we took that step away in order to balance the budget.
Shanklin said all we're doing is putting it back.
Powell said it is not taking anything from them they didn't already have, it's simply
giving back to
them what was taken away during the budget workshop. This brings them back in line with
what's been done with the other working people in the City of Lawton, namely the Police and the
Ewing-Holmstrom asked about the furlough day and the City being unable to win the right
furlough firefighters. She said part of the negotiations were they were willing to actually go
layoffs instead of using the term furlough?
Mitchell said that statement was made in the arbitration hearing and we didn't win the
but the statement was made in the arbitration hearing that they would prefer layoff to furlough.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked where are we going to get the money for this?
Mitchell said you have your fund balance. You have the money for this year and
promise we'll have the money next year and that's the down side of providing additional wages
and benefits. He said as we alluded to when we talked about the Fire contract, the impact of the
Fire contract is bigger next year than this year.
Ewing-Holmstrom said that has nothing to do with what we're talking about right now.
Devine said this Council should really consider, in the future, with all our negotiating
general employees and the two unions, is every time we give a raise, it's on a percentage basis
and the person on the bottom of the totem pole gets 2 1/2%, which doesn't equal to the person at
the top, who gets 2 1/2%. He said if we are going to give, for an example, a 2 1/2% increase to
the Fire and Police Unions and General employees, is to take all of what that raise would be for
every individual employee, pool all that money into one group and then divide it equally among
the 800 plus employees and give them a raise where everybody actually gets an equal raise, once.
He said there is a glitch to that, you couldn't do that every year for the simple reason, the
personnel would get up with the top personnel, but you could do this every two, three or four
years, in which it gives a larger percentage raise to the little guy instead of the big guy. He
that is something Council really needs to think about.
Powell said he believes that is called a stipend.
Shanklin said we have 132 employees making between $20-25,000 annually, 136 making
between $25-30,000, and this was in April 2003. He said if you gave everybody this same $500,
there is not any difference between these. Those making between $20-25,000 will not get any
closer to those in the $25-30,000 range, but they all got the same amount of money. He said he
has a hard time giving the 3% to the $35-40,000 people and the $20-25,000 people the same 3%,
because it grows. You will find out that some of our people are making $25,000 more than their
#1 Supervisors; that was true down at the City Barn when we passed this.
Warren said the union is not going to play that game. We are going to end up doing
thing we are now and that's going to be treating general employees different than the unions,
because he doesn't think we will ever convince the unions to take an even amount.
Bass asked how much reserve will we have left once we do this?
Mitchell said we are only six months through the budget year, so if Council approves
recommendation and we look at all the employee groups and the cost to provide those wages and
benefits, it will reduce this $1.8 million by $620,000, so you will be back to about $1.2 million, if
everything else is equal and that's about where we thought we would, at the beginning of the
year, end up.
Bass asked about the $1 million taken out of rolling stock; we're not going to put this
dollars back into it?
Mitchell said we fully funded the Capital Outlay Program this year.
Vincent read the ordinance title prior to vote.
SECOND by Warren, to adopt step 1, make it retroactive to July 1, 2003 and approving
Ordinance No. 03-59 and change as presented, pertaining to personnel regulations that amends
Section 17-1-4-136, Chapter 17, Lawton City Code, 1995, providing for the reinstatement of
merit step increases in the general employee pay plan, establish severability, and declaring an
emergency with an effective date. AYE: Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton,
Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
Ordinance No. 03-59
An Ordinance pertaining to Personnel Regulations that amends Section 17-1-4-136, Chapter
Lawton City Code, 1995, providing for the reinstatement of merit step increases in the General
Employee Pay Plan, establish severability, and declaring an emergency with an effective date.
MOTION by Hanna, SECOND by Warren to take a ten minute break. AYE: Ewing-Holmstrom,
Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED
The Mayor and Council recessed for a ten minute break at approximately 7:33 p.m. and
reconvened in regular, open session at approximately 7:45 p.m. with roll call reflecting all
COUNCIL RETURNED TO CONSECUTIVE ORDER (ITEM #18) ON THE AGENDA AT
26. Consider adopting a resolution approving modification and
revision to the City's existing
pay plan for the Public Works Director, modifying the personnel schedule of the FY 2003-2004
budget, and declaring an effective date.
Mitchell said approval of this Resolution changes the pay grade for the Public Works
from MG13 to MG15, pay grade increase reflects the additional responsibilities assigned to this
position. The cost to the City in changing the pay grade of the Public Works Director is $1,990
for the balance of this year and $3,981 annually.
Shanklin said this is not near the pay raise this gentleman is entitled to, in his opinion.
Powell said he had a request from Renee Plata to speak on this item.
Plata said she understands the Public Works Director is maxed out and is at the end
of his step
raises. She said the only thing she is wondering about the other people who are maxed out at
their step raises and is there any consideration for those people?
Powell said we are dealing only with this particular item tonight and that is not a
part of this.
Plata said she wanted Council to know that he isn't the only person, she realizes he's
management, this is something Mr. Mitchell's asking and she didn't see it anywhere else. She said
another thing is her particular position was rifted and wasn't offered to her....
Powell said we are not getting into personality or personnel other than this one item
and that's it.
He said Plata asked during the break to speak and he has granted that, Mitchell has answered her
and Ihler has, for the last two years, been at the top, as far as he can go, so he's responded to her
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Haywood, to approve Resolution 03-202 approving
modification and revision to the City's existing pay plan for the Public Works Director,
modifying the personnel schedule of the FY 2003-2004 budget, and declaring an effective date.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked where all the money is coming from? She said six months
were in trouble. Are we going to have to come back later and increase the water rates? She
she is all for giving people the money they deserve, their raise, their pay, but this agenda is full
giving money away.
Mitchell said this started when you approved the Police contract. He said when
we adopted the
budget, we had frozen salaries, you were taking a very strong stand with all our employee
groups, and once you approved Fire and Police contracts, then you had the General Employees.
He said our fund balance has improved and he wasn't suggesting it will continue to improve, but
you do have an improved fund balance.
Ewing-Holmstrom said the point she is trying to make is, we increased water rates to
budget and that tells people we are broke. She received calls from people saying we balanced the
budget through increasing the water and there was no money, and now we have money, so she
wants an explanation as to where this money is coming from that we are dishing out. We still
have to answer to the people.
Mitchell said we cut a number of positions in the budget and one of the positions we
cut was the
Director of Operations in Public Works, which was an $82,000 annual salary.
Ewing-Holmstrom asked if there was money in this department for this.
Mitchell said yes.
Warren said in no way, in his opinion, this has to do with the fact that Ihler is stepped
has to do with the responsibility he shoulders everyday, it has nothing to do with the steps, this is
an attempt to pay him for the amount of responsibility we have afforded him.
Powell reminded everyone that this city took many measures in freezing salaries and
hiring, last year, to get in the financial condition we're in right now. He said it's not like
been throwing money away and hiring everybody that comes down the street and off the corner,
that has not happened.
A vote on the motion was held at this time.
AYE: Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna.
None. MOTION CARRIED.
27. Consider approving a re-organization of manpower within the
Public Works Department.
Shanklin said we've just gave the man a raise that is way past due and still underpaid
and if that's
what he wants I'm going to approve this, under Ihler's direction.
Reggie Blackhole, Plant Operator, from the Public Works Department stated his concerns
this re-organization would have on the existing employees.
Ihler said in regards to the employees out there, this will have no impact, we have
position for a plant operator, and are wanting to upgrade that vacant position to an Electronic
Technician/Instrumentation Tech because the skills required to take care of our instrumentation
out there, are at a greater level than what a Plant Operator would do. He said this provides us
opportunity, instead of contracting out those services, to go ahead and hire somebody that will
take care of those items and this person will be utilized at all three locations.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Ewing-Holmstrom, to approve a re-organization of
manpower within the Public Works Department. AYE: Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton,
Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna, Devine. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
28. Discuss and provide direction concerning amending Chapter
14, Lawton City Code to adopt
the Model Regulations of Manufactured Homes as recommended by the Manufactured Housing
Association of Oklahoma.
Bigham said this was brought to the Council a couple meetings ago, there was some strategy
to use the Building Code, as an effort to try to remove some of these, less than desirable
residential dwellings, in some of our neighborhoods. Since then, we have looked at the Federal
Statutes that exempts Municipalities from enforcing Building Codes on certain mobile homes.
So it was tabled. At that meeting we looked at a different approach. He said he had
the Oklahoma Manufactured Housing Association in Oklahoma City and they have put together
the model ordinance which is in Council's packet. It's not in City Code form at this time, but
thinks the concept they have put together is something that would be very beneficial for the City
of Lawton to look at. He said this goes back to the discussions we've heard tonight on what
looks good and what doesn't look good, if we have an interest in what our residential areas look
like. He thinks this model ordinance has some very good points to it. Essentially, this
is suggesting if you put a manufactured house in a stick-built residential area, let's make it look
like the rest of the houses. Right now, our City Code does not give any difference in the 1959
round-back pink mobile home compared to some of the very nice mobile homes or manufactured
homes you see have pitched roofs, the same veneers we have on our stick-built homes. We don't
have any meat in our Code right now that would prohibit some of these older mobile homes from
being put in any area. Bigham said he had a conversation with one Council member recently,
and if somebody comes in to apply for a mobile home permit or a new subdivision, on the west
side of town, we will issue that, pick any subdivision in town, we will issue a mobile home
permit, of any description, to go in that subdivision. He said personally, he doesn't think that
right. There is added protection at the newer subdivisions where homeowners can take them to
District Court to enforce the plat restriction, but he doesn't know if that's what we really want to
do. He said we need to have a uniform code for manufactured homes or mobile homes,
throughout the city we can all live with.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she doesn't think you're going to get an argument from the Council,
great idea and should have been done a long time ago. Her question was, if we don't have the
money in the budget, the manpower, or the tools for our staff, for currently trying to enforce
codes, how are we going to enforce this? She said it's a great idea and it's great to have it
books, but, you're going to need tools to enforce this and how are you going to do that? Where's
the follow through?
Bigham said once we have the tools in place, they'll go through the building permit
Ewing-Holmstrom asked how and are you going to put in more inspectors? We have
homes sprinkled all over this town.
Shanklin said those are grandfathered in.
Bigham said that's going to be one of the issues we are going to have to deal with. What to do
with the ones that are already in place. We're going to have to have either some kind of
amortization clause in the ordinance saying they've got to be gone in five years or if they're
replaced, you cannot put a new one in. Right now we have nothing.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she agreed with that.
Bigham said it will take manpower to do it, and what standard do you want this community
have? You're going to have to pay for that manpower.
Devine said it's his same old gripe; if you can't buy a brand new nice big fine shiny
you are just SOL. He said this aggravates him that we come in here and want to start dictating
what people can have. He gave an example and the reason this really bothers him. He said
mother-in-law is 80 something years old, if she lives another five years and you do what you're
wanting to, she is going to have to tear her house down and move. He said that's the only
livelihood she has, but you're gonna say in five years, "Helen, you move out of here, we're going
to tear your old house down because it ain't pretty no more, it's not brand new." He said
cannot do that and it is wrong.
Shanklin said Council was not saying that.
Devine said that's exactly what you're saying and that's just what Bigham said out there.
Shanklin said it's not and Devine's mother-in-law's place looks as good as anyplace.
Devine said Yes, as good as any home in Lawton. He said in five years she's gonna
have to tear
it down if Bigham gets his way.
Bigham said this is not in ordinance form, it's going to be the decision of this body
whatever regulations they wish.
Devine said no, it's what Bigham wants and has pushed for.
Bigham said he has not presented any ordinance on item 24 to the Council, this is it's
appearance before this body. He said he was simply trying to provide a more reasonable way to
have the plumbing code, if that is what Devine was referring to.
Devine said that's exactly what he was referring to.
Bigham said this is the first time it's been initiated to this body.
Bass said he doesn't think you have to worry about condemning trailer houses, you can't
Powell said you all are living in a different town than I am. I've seen lots of
Shanklin said he wanted to make a motion that we give direction to staff.
Bass said not if somebody owns them and knows somebody, then you can't get them torn
Shanklin said that may be.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she seconds whatever Bob was going to do.
Shanklin said all he was trying to do is keep someone from moving a dilapidated house
north side over to the south side.
Devine said he agreed with Shanklin 100%.
MOTION by Shanklin, SECOND by Ewing-Holmstrom, to adopt consideration number two and
let staff bring back something we can look at and get on the book as how to handle mobile
homes, manufactured homes, etc. AYE: Shanklin, Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass, Hanna,
Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
29. Discuss entering into an agreement with Comanche County to
allow Sheriff vehicle's to
utilize the City of Lawton wash bays during normal business hours and take appropriate action.
Devine said he received a call from Under-Sheriff John Stowe asking if something could
worked out because with the new jail now in place, they don't have the ability to wash their
vehicles. They are asking for a temporary agreement with the City to allow the County to wash
their Sheriff vehicles during our working hours.
John Stowe, County Under-Sheriff said about six months ago he spoke with some people
using the City's wash bays, which was restricted to City vehicles at that time. He said over the
last three to four months, the jail has been reassigned to different control. He said they did use
trustees to clean and wash the Sheriff Department's vehicles. He said he is coming before
Council as a private citizen. The wash rack is not usable all the time because of some overflow.
They have no place to wash them, some deputies are taking money out of their own pockets to
try to keep those cars, clean and neat looking. He said they have some good looking vehicles and
would like to keep them looking as nice as they can. He said if this is a situation where it needs
contract, that would have to go before the Board of County Commissioners.
Shanklin asked how many cars they have.
Stowe said approximately 35-40 vehicles.
Shanklin asked how often.
Stowe said it depends on the weather. We would have more exposure than Municipal
because we cover the dirt roads. He said some have to be washed two or three times a week,
some less often, it's hard to say.
Powell asked Stowe if they would have any maintenance on their part because they are
out on the
county roads and come in with a lot of mud, dirt and gravel, etc. and it will be left in those wash
bays. He asked if they would provide any service to help out there.
Stowe said that is something the Commissioners could answer. He said we have no
trustee labor at this time.
Powell asked who pumps our pits out.
Ihler said we have our own vacuum trucks that pumps them out.
Shanklin asked Ihler how much hindrance would this be.
Ihler said our pumps are four gallons per minute, so minimal cost on the water and minimal
on the soap. He said it would really be the time, the additional vehicles. He said we have
special rack just for the police cars and they may have to wait a few minutes to get their cars
washed; it's just the timing. He said if they came down and washed them in the evening hours,
when there's no rush on the rack, would probably be very minimal.
Vincent said there would have to be contract with the County on this. Even if
there wasn't a
dollar change hands, there is the issue of damage to property, either their property or ours, there
has to be an agreement.
Warren said he didn't have a problem supporting this if we give direction to staff to
bring back a
contract that addresses liability and financial issues.
Devine said he agrees with Warren.
MOTION by Devine, SECOND by Warren, directing staff to bring back an agreement with
Comanche County to allow Sheriff vehicles to utilize the City of Lawton wash bays, with said
agreement addressing liability and financial issues. AYE: Patton, Haywood, Warren, Bass,
Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
REPORTS: MAYOR/CITY COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER
Haywood thanked the City of Lawton for allowing him to attend the National League of
Conference in Nashville. He said he had attended several meetings, went on a tour and really
enjoyed his time there. He said they had discussed the "No Child Left Behind" program,
into effect in 2014, Early Childhood Education, we received an award in and they met people we
will be dealing with later, know them on a first name basis and when we call Washington DC and
ask for resources, we may able to get those resources because we attended the meeting. He said
you have to network in order to see money, in this time and day.
Warren said he wished to make everyone aware that the Comanche County Nutrition Program
funded dually by the City and County, by money or in kind and it appears that the County hasn't
paid their portion of this since October, which amounts to about $3,000. He said Leisure Services
had sent a letter requesting those funds and the response we got back from Commissioner Pope
was, (which he read verbatim), a message left on an answering machine: "Regarding the bill
Patterson Center and HC King, the County doesn't have the money to pay this. We have talked
about this. We need to come to an agreement or we are going to have to do something, because
we can provide food, but we can't continue to pay for Patterson and HC King in the way we are
doing right now." Warren said there is a contract in place and if the County is in such dire
straights that they can't follow through on a contract in the amount of $3,000, he said he thinks
we have a real problem and the citizens of Comanche County need to know that. He said he
hopes everyone hearing this and hopefully will read this tomorrow in the paper, will call Mr.
Pope and express their dismay at the fact that the County doesn't have $3,000 to pay for the
Shanklin presented Ewing-Holmstrom with a bag of items from the NLC Conference in
Nashville. He said the City gives us $38 per day and wanted to share with everyone just how far
that went. He said it was $36 to get from the airport to the hotel, breakfast was $12, plus your
coffee or milk, plus a tip, steaks began at $42, a taxi cab was $30 to go to Shoney's to get
something in our class, which is about $8 and then it was $38 back, so he said we could have had
that steak or split one. He said Opryland was overwhelming for him, he got lost everyday, on the
hour. He said it is 48 acres on the roof, some of it 200 feet high. He said if you drove
it was $17 per day for parking. He said the exhibit room was very interesting and he brought
back some tools he feels we can be talking about in the future. He told Ewing-Holmstrom he
wanted her to go next year.
Ewing-Holmstrom said she just doubts the City can afford it.
Shanklin said yes the City can and we can't afford not to go.
Bass said in the budget we took away $1 million from the rolling stock, which was a
dollar gift and everyone pays $3 per month on their utility bill for that and somehow it got into
the general fund and you didn't have to pay it back. He said as long as you're giving all this
money away, just remember you got a million dollar gift that you never paid back.
Ewing-Holmstrom said as you and your families gather freely and safely in the comfort
homes, everyone needs to remember we have service men and women all over the world, on duty
and will be on duty Christmas Eve and Christmas night and New Year's Eve and New Year's Day
and we need to keep them in our thoughts as they protect our liberties and our freedoms. She
asked as you gather around your table on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day to please keep them in
your thoughts and prayers. Even though they caught the bad guy, the war is not over and we
must continue to remember that.
Hanna said the conference was expensive, but they had a good time. He said there
will be things
coming in the mail to different departments he asked be sent to them from the conference. He
wished everyone Happy Holidays.
Mitchell said he would like to echo what the other Council members said about the NLC
Conference and he feels it is very worthwhile. He said he does have a CD ROM which will be
here in about three weeks, so you can slip it into your computer and it will be like you were
there. He said while they were there, they participated in a couple panel discussions on Early
Childhood and the president of the National League of Cities presented the City of Lawton with
a plague for our participation in the program. He said we were there with the City of Tulsa and
six or seven other cities at the presentation. Mitchell presented the plague to Mayor Powell at
Powell said this will be hung in City Hall. He said we had a State meeting here
governor's wife came and spoke and they had an excellent panel. He said Jane Mitchell, the City
Manager's wife, is working very hard with this through the United Way, so this is not an accident
this happened and he happily accepted the plague. Powell wished everyone a Merry Christmas.
He asked everyone to pray for our soldiers everyday because they don't ever take a break.
MOTION by Warren, SECOND by Hanna to convene into executive session. AYE: Warren,
Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood. NAY: None. MOTION
The Mayor and Council convened in executive session at approximately 9:07 p.m. and
reconvened in regular, open session at approximately 9:15 p.m. with roll call reflecting all
BUSINESS ITEMS: EXECUTIVE SESSION
30. Pursuant to Section 307B.4, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss the pending lawsuit of
City of Lawton vs. Atlas-Tuck Concrete, Inc. and
Landmark Engineering, Case No. CJ-2002-252, District Court of Comanche County, and if
necessary, take appropriate action in open session.
Vincent read the title of Item 30 as shown above. He said Council convened in executive
and after discussion staff requests authorization for the City Attorney's Office to execute the
settlement agreement as proposed by the court.
MOTION by Devine, SECOND by Hanna, to authorize the City Attorney's Office to execute the
settlement agreement as proposed by the court in the pending lawsuit of City of Lawton vs.
Atlas-Tuck Concrete, Inc. and Landmark Engineering, Case No. CJ-2002-252, District Court of
Comanche County. AYE: Bass, Hanna, Devine, Ewing-Holmstrom, Shanklin, Patton, Haywood,
Warren. NAY: None. MOTION CARRIED.
31. Pursuant to Section 307B.2, Title 25, Oklahoma Statutes,
consider convening in executive
session to discuss negotiations for a Collective Bargaining Agreement for FY 2004-2005
between the Police Union, IUPA, Local 24, and the City of Lawton, and take appropriate action
in open session.
Vincent read the title of Item 31 as shown above. He said Council convened in executive
and after discussion no action is required at this time.
Powell announced he was in a conference call with the Chamber of Commerce last Friday
12:00 p.m. with a Doctor at Oklahoma University with a plan to have a group from that
department come down to make a study, in particular, 2
nd Street leading into downtown Lawton
and possibly a couple more areas. He said this study would probably cost around $10,000 and
the Chamber is trying to get private money and has a great commitment from some lending
institutions to come forth with the biggest part of that money to make this happen. He said there
are a lot of pluses in this and is something a lot of people have wanted for a long time, but there
might be a possibility where the City might have to contribute a small amount of the funding. He
wished everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy and Safe New Year.
There being no further business to consider, the meeting adjourned at 9:20 p.m. upon
second and roll call vote.